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czech speacial forces

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#1 13 years ago

i was playing adak island and flew the warhawk a couple of times. it was not effective at all agenst the landing craft(except for hitting people inside it) then i tryed the biggest plane on that map the b-25 mitchell no effect again. i then tryed the lightning and to my suprise it was effective agenst landing craft and even the japanese destroyer.(i didnt try it agenst the carrier) the lightning has 2000 rounds also. why is the lightning .50 cal so effective.




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#2 13 years ago

That would be because included amongest those .50 cals, is one 20 mm cannon as that was the standard armament for the P-38 Lightning




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#3 13 years ago

oh well that explains it. but still shouldnt a .50 cal. penetrate the japanese landing crafts armor




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#4 13 years ago

I guess so?




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#5 13 years ago

I think technically, the .50cal should penetrate the Japanese landing crafts.

You know what the Japanese were like with armoured stuff in WWII.

Ha-Go and and a BAR, anyone?




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#6 13 years ago

lol...Ha-Go and a platoon of US Marines, anyone?




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#7 13 years ago
czech speacial forcesjapanese landing crafts armor

Unless they had one, for example american LCVP did not had any armour, the most bullet proof fragment was the ramp. I'm not sure about japanese one.:uhm:




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#8 13 years ago

I killed Mazz last night on the WOLF server using the Ma Duce on an LCVP, and he was in the Ha Go. If you can kill a "tank" with that machinegun, then four of them should rip a landing craft to bits. Are you sure this was the P-40, and not the Hawk 75 of Invasion of the Phillipines? They only had .30 cals.




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#9 13 years ago

Another thing to consider is weight of fire.

In WW2 most aircraft that had wing guns had the guns set slightly at a angle so the bullets actually met at a point roughly 300 feet in front of the airplane. This distance was set according to the wants of the pilots and could be more or less depending on what range the pilots were comfortable shooting with. Some pilots had the guns staggered so they had a elongated cone so that they had pairs of guns convering at different ranges to improve chances of getting a hit.

That means depending on your range only a percentage of your bullets are going to be inside that lethal cone and hit the target.

The P-38 however has 4 x 12.7mm HMG's and a 20mm cannon all sitting in the nose grouped tightly together. There is no convergence because since the guns are all at the centerline they can just shoot straight ahead. This makes for a deadly concentration of firepower because ALL your bullets are hitting in that lethal cone.

The Germans understood this and is one of the reasons all teh weapons of the Bf109F were mounted in the nose. It carried fewer weapons than earlier models but by all the weapons being mounted in the nose the concentration of fire was much greater.

In essence if a P-40 with 6 x .50cal (12.7mm) and a P-38 were shooting at the same targets there is a good chance that the P-38 was getting a much higher percentage of hits due to its better concentration of fire. The 20mm just adds insult to injury and helps finish the job quicker.




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#10 13 years ago

But still any .50 cal should rip those landing craft apart. Even the destroyer should be able to be killed since they are unarmored except for vital areas and even then they only had 10 to 17mm of armor to protect against shell fragments.