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Fuzzy Bunny

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#21 13 years ago
The 13th RaptorI think knives and shovels need to be removed all together, what is realistic about german soldiers running around slicing enemy soldiers up with a friggen shovel?

Lots of WWII combat consisted of brutal, hand-to-hand fighting.

Plus, on a lot of missions I want to be able to take out guards, AA guys, whatever, quietly.

What is unrealistic is the range and ease with which you can knife someone.

However, I think McGibs mentioned that melee would be possible with a lot of objects (i.e. cold-clocking someone with a rifle butt.)




Tas

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#22 13 years ago

FuzzyBunnyLots of WWII combat consisted of brutal, hand-to-hand fighting.

Plus, on a lot of missions I want to be able to take out guards, AA guys, whatever, quietly.

What is unrealistic is the range and ease with which you can knife someone.

However, I think McGibs mentioned that melee would be possible with a lot of objects (i.e. cold-clocking someone with a rifle butt.)

Either put shoe/helmet trowing into the game, or remove it all, its not fair to the veterans! Seriously though, whatever is done, if knives are going to be in, its rof should be much much slower so people wont even think about taking it into actual combat, which i dont think backstabbing is. ;)




roterschnee

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#23 13 years ago
The 13th RaptorI think knives and shovels need to be removed all together, what is realistic about german soldiers running around slicing enemy soldiers up with a friggen shovel? Absolutely nothing, and i very much doubt allied soldiers had the habit of taken the knife to the enemy. They should either be attached to the end of their rifle, or not used at all.

I've read numerous accounts of trench warfare on the Eastern Front where soldiers actually sharpened their shovels for use in close combat. One instance that springs to mind is the fighting for the positions on the West side of the Oder and Seelow Heights.




Major Hartmann

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#24 13 years ago
J.SteinerI've read numerous accounts of trench warfare on the Eastern Front where soldiers actually sharpened their shovels for use in close combat. One instance that springs to mind is the fighting for the positions on the West side of the Oder and Seelow Heights.

If you get hit by a shovel, you are going down, no matter if sharpened or not. A hit with the edge of a shovel of the size as in FH1 would be roughly comparable to a hit with a blunt sword. It may not kill you, but it hurts like hell.




Fuzzy Bunny

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#25 13 years ago
The 13th RaptorEither put shoe/helmet trowing into the game, or remove it all, its not fair to the veterans! Seriously though, whatever is done, if knives are going to be in, its rof should be much much slower so people wont even think about taking it into actual combat, which i dont think backstabbing is. ;)

Not just ROF, but also range and spread of the damage -- I'm thinking of that picture Stauffenberg (?) posted a while ago showing him knifing a wall, and having knife slash impacts show up across a 3x3foot area of it.

Damage, as Hartmann says, should remain, and yes, I'm definitely in favor of letting you use as great a range of items to smack people upside the head with as possible. I believe McGibs already mentioned that this was under consideration, so not only knives, but bayonets, rifle butts, AT rifle barrels, shovels, whatever.




Polska

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#26 13 years ago

A shovel, even though sharp and able to cut or hack trough limbs shouldn't be used as a sword only, it'd be cool if you cool smash the enemy and break a few bones in his body ( arm hit - less accuracy, back hit - immobilised, etc ).




[79th]Sgt-D

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#27 13 years ago

I think melee attack with a fixed bayonet should kill the enemy, instead smashing him with the rifle or smg's butt should only knock him down or out for a few seconds.




[21Pz]Stauffenberg

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#28 13 years ago

Haha, that would indeed be fun, like smash him down and steal his weapon :naughty:




{9thInf}QbanRev*E*

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#29 13 years ago

knifing in .7 is so easy its not even an insult to be knifed anymore, i commonly taken 3-4 smg bullets and win a fight with a knife




The Ultimate Drifter

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#30 13 years ago

I own a few guns. My Kimber 1911 (which is a dolled up colt) is very heavy when loaded. I am sure a good pistol whip to the head could knock someone out. I don't know if the engine would support people being knocked out or not. As for shovels/spatans I don't think people should swing them so fast. If you really want to smash someone with a shovel you should have to hold Alt fire and let er rip! ROOF does this, you can charge your melee attack. I think all rifle infantry should have a bayonet and maybe other troops could get a knife or shovel. I think the point of the weapon should be to kill an enemy who is sniping or not alert.... not to act as a weapon you pick over a submachine gun or pistol for close combat. I do give .7 credit, it took out a lot of knife dancing but to be honest I'd pick a shovel over a P-38 for clearing a house all day. I'm sure FH2 will figure out a pretty good melee combat system. CAN'T WAIT!