ever wonder why generals always tried to out flak each other?? duh.....its weaker on the sides....and with a weaker force...attacking the sides gives you a better chance of sucess...there was a sherman not to long ago that was pelting me from long range (i had a King tiger) so i see this *blam* .....*blam* so i start returning fire in the direction of his shadow...got kinda difficult since it looked like he has hitting the front of my turret...i evently nailed him...he said and i quote "OMG!!! i shot you about 20 times!! you should be dead" ...naturaly i laughed histericaly...then i said "Hello? King tiger??"....no reply.....the kt is the expert at head to head tanking...so dont give it the advantage.....in lamens terms.....if your going to challenge michal jordan.....challenge him to soccer....not basketball
I would also like to think that repeatedly hitting a tank in the same place over and over, regardless of weapon, will eventually penetrate.
Take a rubber band and flick it at a nearby car. Now, do this again, in the same spot. Again, and again, and again. Keep doing this until the rubber band makes a hole. Come back and tell us how long it took to do it. :)
that is not a comprable situion and is not the reasont why that idea does not fit. Indeed if you could hit in the exact spot many round will gouge metal out and leve a divit.
This is silly though because if a hit was off by literaly not much more then the width of the round, it would have to start over again.
The only realsonble reason say a tiger could take damage from a m-8 is if it hits its tracks. Since the tracks and mobilty are part of a tnanks "health", and 20mm or so cannon fire stand a good chance of severly damage track links this not that unreaonable. However, taking even small damage on heavy armored places is not justified.
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17th June 2003
schoolkidTake a rubber band and flick it at a nearby car. Now, do this again, in the same spot. Again, and again, and again. Keep doing this until the rubber band makes a hole. Come back and tell us how long it took to do it. :)
Okay, I actually have some pretty large elastics in our basement...
How much armor does a tiger tank have on its lower hull? WWII vehicles says its it 62mm........Achtung Panzer says its it 80 mm ?..which one of these website is correct?.
getting exact numbers....
hull is the lower superstructure is the upper
WarHawk109No one ever does that. :|
Maybe you should join a clan.
'[11PzGmatyast']errrr....on top Try on side...and die.... Hehe...this reminds me of the good old days when I was knifing tanks in 0.65 ;) Tankers got crazy, they couldn't shake me off....pissed them off as hell...[/QUOTE]Good old days?!?? Still works now when a tank tries to capture a point. If you're short on Satchels, try running around the tank with a spanner and watch it shat its pants... while an Eng with satchels or a tank comes up and blows him up'[11PzG USMA2010']Technically, the M10 has the bigger gun. Its 90mm against a 88mm. Sorry, but no. Tatics work well, just with common sense. Dont go out hunting tanks in a Sherman. Park yours somewhere where it cant be seen and wait for that Panzer to drive in front of you.Anluschac is correct. Also its not about the size of the gun but the muzzle velocity. The 17pdr and 88 L71 were vicious not because of their muzzle size but because of their velocity. And actually Tank huntings with Shermans works very well because of their mobility. Only the best gunners can take out a Sherman while moving at full speed in FH. And tank hunting is not what you think either. Its really just camping in a good spot and shooting at anything that moves. [QUOTE=Anlushac11] Even with a 76mm or 90mm gun Im still gonna go for a side shot if I can get it. IRL 76mm wasnt worth squat against the front of the Tiger or Panther. That was one of the main reasons Soviets switched to 85mm on T-34 and US switched to 90mm on M36.
Main exception to this being the British 17pdr [doesn 't work with KTs though]...
Stationarythats because the top of a tiger is where it is most vulerable, that or the bottom, thats where the armor is the weakest. I took out an M10 from the top with one shot from a bazooka :beer:
Hate to burst a bubble, but you can take out an M10 with a bazooka anywhere, it doesnt matter where you hit it'll probably brew up quickly.
Tigers are a different matter, however. You can take out a Tiger with one bazooka shot but you've gotta be lucky or just have a very decent shot on the engine block. I've managed to hit a Tiger on it's underside by hiding up against a hedgerow, where it's armour is weakest.
And, people, never try to take out a Tiger or any German heavy with an M8. I dont even think it shot armour piercing rounds, but besides it's only a 38mm. I'd like to think we could blow tracks off in Forgotten Hope but it's not possible, so the M8 would be totally useless. I've seen a picture of an M8 passing a knocked out StuG3G assault gun which was half burried in a ditch. It said that the M8 was not very likely to have any part in it's demise, so I'm not sure whether a side shot would even do it. Even though in Forgotten Hope it's possible.