P-47 bullets bouncing off ground to take out Tigers? -1 reply

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Ronin Pedroshin

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#1 9 years ago

I've seen this for a long time and have been thinking how much of it is true...

If it was true it could be an interesting feature for FH2 if you could get airplane bullets to bounce off the ground... but was this even possible?

There has been some debate, which I've been reading, and most seem to think otherwise. - WW2 German Tiger vs American P-47 - Topic Powered by eve community - The bouncing 50 caliber tank killer - Topic Powered by eve community

But from the video one would think it's an American veteran pilot that is speaking, and it doesn't seem like he would make it up just for the heck of it...

What do you think?

PS: By the way those things ricocheting like mad on the video... are they bullets, tracers or both?




Flyboy1942

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#2 9 years ago

I've seen both this video and this debate some time ago in this forum. Can't seem to remember what the outcome was though.

The vehicle in that video however, may have been something else mistaken as a tiger (kind of a common mistake). Would explain the ease at which it was killed if this were the case. What you see bouncing are the tracers, and I find it hard to believe that the AP rounds are bouncing as well. I mean think about it. The round is supposed to be able to penetrate tank armor (even the relatively weak underside), but bounces off of asphalt?




Flippy Warbear

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#3 9 years ago

In FH2, bullets can indeed deflect off ground, such as asphalt. Try it in Mareth Line, take a spitfire, messerschmitt or beau and fire at the main asphalt road leading from british main to northern flags at Gabes. You see the projectiles bouncing off and the best of all, they hurt things. Back then before first public release, we had a session to test out these bounces. Very fun shooting at the ground with a bren gun, yet hosing down people who stand in a row. :)

And yeah, same goes for vehicles. If you for example shoot the Tiger with spitfire, the shots bounce off and this can be seen clearly. And AFAIK it already works so in the current version with specific tank vs specific plane.




Von Mudra

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#4 9 years ago

IMHO, the idea that 50 cal bullets that have already slowed incredibly, hit asphalt and shattered before going up against metal armour could in no way take out the tank. The pilot may honestly believe that the tank was destoried, but irl, the crew was probably fine. There were plenty of reports of planes taking out tanks, but almost all of them are false, with pilots over claiming and taking the idea of smoke and debris around the tank to mean that the tank was destroyed. IRL, it was more a morale and fear thing for the german tankers than any actual threat.




Lainer

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#5 9 years ago

Just from my experience in the field of "shooting shit" I have to call BS on this one. No freaking way man. :rofl:




LtJimmy

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#6 9 years ago
Lainer;4606573Just from my experience in the field of "shooting shit" I have to call BS on this one. No freaking way man. :rofl:

Seconded: I call BS as well.




Kev4000

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#7 9 years ago

Not only that, the bullet would be completely deformed. Besides, don't they have armour plates underneath, just not as thick? If it were paper underneath maybe it would've been possible, but I can envision just 5mm of steel being enough to stop deflected .50 caliber.




FlyGuy45

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#8 9 years ago

Maybe they hit a track or some smoke. That is about it.




Von Mudra

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#9 9 years ago

Deflected and shattered, there's no way the bullet is just being deformed, its gonna shred apart into splinters. That, plus the deflection that its going to hit the armour at, plus the massive loss of velocity, means that there is no freaking way that can ever have happened.




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#10 9 years ago

Tigers had fuel tank trailers? Kind of a dangerous way to transit from one place to another. And no way on the .50 cal. Maybe Pz4s, but nothing heavier.