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#1 11 years ago

Personally I think planes are a great addition to battlefield. However, I think that they are not really a great help to the team. With only a few planes available, very few points of a battle are won from the air. The good thing about Forgotten Hope 2 is the slower planes. In vanilla BF2, fighters were too fast and covered an entire 64 player map in a matter of seconds. One thing that I think should be done in FH2 is more planes per team.

The other thing is that there should be a good runway line-up for the planes. I enjoy the challenge of trying to land the planes and take them off again. In FH2 it is nearly impossible to land them as they are always very close to the edge of the map.

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#2 11 years ago

I can't agree with anything you've said. First off, if you played FH1 you'll see that on the desert maps, if the planes are like they used to be, are way too good and make land fighting really boring because you'd drive for minutes to get to a flag and get nuked by stukas. Planes in WW2 we're definately a good support method, but in FH2 they are perfect for the role they play because they can still do a lot of damage in the right hands without having too much overkill and it still leaves a chance for us groundpounders to live. Second of all there are enough planes per team. The ratio is fine and I think planes should stay how they are, although I wouldn't mind a nosecam feature.




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#3 11 years ago

But 1 thing it would be cool to be add is Vickers Wellington or some Heavy Bomber in the futur :P




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#4 11 years ago

honestly, on a full 64 player server the planes influence on the battlefield is nonexistent.

on el al you can tank a whole round throughout the map without ever being harrased by planes under normal circumstances. thanks to land to reload and the new viewsystem airpower is virtually nonexistent. frankly said: a tankrapers paradise (and right they are, why should they move when there is no threat from above).

and i very much doubt that more experience for the pilots will change the situation in any substantial way.




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#5 11 years ago

hslan.Faust;4119489honestly, on a full 64 player server the planes influence on the battlefield is nonexistent.

on el al you can tank a whole round throughout the map without ever being harrased by planes under normal circumstances. thanks to land to reload and the new viewsystem airpower is virtually nonexistent. frankly said: a tankrapers paradise (and right they are, why should they move when there is no threat from above).

and i very much doubt that more experience for the pilots will change the situation in any substantial way.

I agree, I have yet to be killed by a bomber whilst in a tank, I don't even consider for a moment that there might be a threat from above. Planes just seem to be something to shoot at, rather than fear. Managed to bag a stuka with a 75mm Grant shell the other week. A step in the right direction would be to allow rearming without landing, unrealistic perhaps, but in my opinion it would give air power more of an effect on the outcome of a battle.




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#6 11 years ago

Tank rape?? I find tanks ridiculously easy to take out. Sure if you run around in the open you will get mowed down. But thats why you take out the tank first, then run around in the open so the lmgs can get you! :p edit: Most of the pilots are missing with their bombs, there is no momentum in bf2, NONE, you have to drop them perfectly, directly, over the target. Most pilots are dropping their bombs early. Once people learn to hit the target, things will change.




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#7 11 years ago
Side`;4119554I agree, I have yet to be killed by a bomber whilst in a tank, I don't even consider for a moment that there might be a threat from above. Planes just seem to be something to shoot at, rather than fear. Managed to bag a stuka with a 75mm Grant shell the other week. A step in the right direction would be to allow rearming without landing, unrealistic perhaps, but in my opinion it would give air power more of an effect on the outcome of a battle.

Strangely enough I just bombed 10 tanks with the beaufighter.

I think they're perfect as they are, if used properly they are a great help to the groundpounders. Especialy when they're up against those pesky Panzer IVF2's.




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#8 11 years ago
Real-BadSeed;4119556Tank rape?? I find tanks ridiculously easy to take out. Sure if you run around in the open you will get mowed down. But thats why you take out the tank first, then run around in the open so the lmgs can get you! :p

you do?

problem is: at a certain time of the game tanks dont have to move forward, their only duty is to control the landscape. and as it has been mentioned before, planes simply impose no threat.

1. there are too few (3 per side on a big map like el al)

2. bombers show up on the actual battlefield far too seldom (land to reload and the problems which this imposes/TKlers, enemy fighters strafing)

3. spotting enemy targets is more difficult thx to the cockpit-view only. combined with land to reload i guess its one tank out of ten who gets bombed until the bomber returns 2minutes later.

actually i could live with the new cockpit-views, but land to reload was a very bad idea in the first place!

as much as i like the very first release of FH2 (overall its brilliant), the airforce seems to be included only for visual effects in the skies.




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#9 11 years ago

I meant as a ground pounder, i find it very easy to take out tanks. Im more of a threat to them, then they are to me. Atleast thats the way ive been finding it. I'll go At-rifle, and snipe them from 500m away while they drive around in panic. lol As for planes, as i said, most of the FH1 pilots just arent use to the different BF2 physics. And ive noticed the most effective bombing from the BF2'ers, because they are use to the different physics. Goes to show, some of you should have played more BF2, just for that reason. I did, even though i found it very arcade. I realised i needed to get use to the way the game feels and plays.




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#10 11 years ago

And not every tank got bombed by planes in real life either. Last time I checked tanks were meant to control landscape. I don't see what you are saying here, what you describe is exactly how it should be.