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axkgkadragon

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#1 14 years ago

i was looking through a weapons book of ww2, and i came across a couple other russian smgs, here what i found:

PPD-1940 Caliber: 7.62mm Length: 31in. (787mm) Weight: 8lb 2oz (3.69kg) Barrel: 10.5in (267mm) Feed system: 71 round detachable drum magazine Rate of fire: 800rpm

PPS-42 and PPS-43 Caliber: 7.62mm Length: 32.25in (819mm)stock extended 25in (635mm)stock stowed Weight: 7lb 6oz (3.39kg) Barrel: 10in (254mm) Feed system: 35 round detachable box magazine Rate of fire: 700rpm

just a thought really,




D-Fens

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#2 14 years ago

we need Dshk and maxim 1910 first of all.




Kingrudolf

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#3 14 years ago

We don't need alternatives. Go back to vanilla.




[11PzG]matyast

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#4 14 years ago

Ppsh is fine....just nade them in the face (after which they call you a whore :sitonit: ):naughty: :lol:




D-Fens

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#5 14 years ago

Ofcourse, but it would still be nice to have more weapons for the russians. Besides it's the mp40 that's need fixing not the ppsh.




Frederf

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#6 14 years ago

Supplement the PPSH? Fine. But remove it and I would miss it. Even if I get owned with it every time and never get a kill with it myself, it belongs in FH in a prominent position




Blistex

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#7 14 years ago
D-FensOfcourse, but it would still be nice to have more weapons for the russians. Besides it's the mp40 that's need fixing not the ppsh.

I don't know about that! I find myself able to snipe from crazy distances, hitting moving targets with that PPSH. Unless you're referring to stopping power and not accuracy, then yes!

The Mp-40 was 9mm, the PPSH was 7.62mm. At close ranges (under 50 yards) the MP-40 should be the one with the stopping power.

p.s. that Japanese pistol is a freaking joke! How many rounds to kill a person with it?




[11PzG]matyast

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#8 14 years ago

What....I killed 2 people a couple of days ago with that gun....but I preffer to use the knife rather than that...mor chance of survival.

P.S. I mean nambu




Mike 51

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#9 14 years ago

I have a question about this "realism" of the PPSh thing. Apparently, in real life, it really would kill or incapacitate someone with a single bullet. That I can believe. But then so, surely would the MP40, the Thompson, the Sten and so on. Even at close range, it takes quite a few rounds of the MP40, the Sten, and the Japanese SMG, to do the same damage as the PPsh in FH. But surely, logically, they would both kill someone in one or two rounds regardless of academic things like velocity and bullet size, because at the end of the day they are all shooting a small piece of metal very fast towards something very soft.

So surely, "realistically", the devs could simply up the damage on all SMGs so that they killed as efficiently as they did in real life, ie: very. I can understand things like accuracy being different, but surely when it comes down to it people saying "the PPsh really was that powerful" should apply the same standard when it comes to the damage a round causes to anything from the Nambu to the Defgun.

What I don't understand is, seeing as "realism-wise", all machine guns would take one or two rounds to take a man down (so long as it hit), why the PPsh is coded so that this happens and other guns aren't. I know that there's an issue of power over distance, but PPsh still kills faster at point-blank range than any other SMG. So what's the deal? In the real world, it wouldn't make a blind bit of a difference, certainly not in regard to killing the target. If the realism guys are so into this, surely all other SMGs should have the same, or very similar power in hitting the human body, rather than allowing the PPsh alone to mirror realistic gun physics, but no others.

Or they could just tone the PPsh down the same way FH has toned down the other machine guns. Would you rather have one "realistic" gun in an unrealistic world? Or would that be an offence to "realism"? ;)




Blistex

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#10 14 years ago

My biggest problem with the PPSH is that all you have to do when fighting in maps like berlin and stalingrad is hold down the trigger and run towards your objective. The ROF, the accuracy, the damage, and that huge drum mag make it comparable to an apc's MG-34 blazing away.

Infantry maps really start to suck when all you have to do is point in the general direction and hold the triger.

I was playing berlin last night and I found that I could kill anyone around a corner if I started firing a second before turning it. In one situation I did the above and killed 3 people. One guy was 3 feet away, the other was crouching behind a step 20 feet away, and the third guy was pretty well at the other end of the street. The crazy thing was that I didn't fire in bursts, I didn't go prone, and I didn't target them individually. All I did was turned the corner with the trigger pulled.