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Driver

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Ok, putting the IV F2 on the desert maps as a replacement to the Pz3 is to say the least bullshit... Thing being that if the speed of the Pz4's isnt fixed in 0.65, well... Good luck traveling on maps long distances, the thing is a little faster than the Matilda2. I suggest a far better replacement... The Puma! Why the Puma? Its gun is the same as on the Pz3. As for the Pz3 itself, well... What the hell is wrong with you people? This mod has been in the making for quite some time now and we still dont have a Pz3? The Canadians are better equiped than the Germans in the Desert. Something aint right... I mean, I know all the little things that put it out of commision right now... Bump mapping, not enough time, blah, blah, blah... Well. It doesnt feel right that the frist vehicle the team decided to use bump mapping on is the Pz3... That said the damn thing should've been out as soon as the team decided to make Desert Rose, or that Egypt map (if they made it). I wouldnt care if it looked as crappy as the Panther as long as 2 versions of it were out. One with a 37mm and another with a 50mm gun. Other than that... Some vehicles need makeovers... Pz4 is the one that comes straight into mind. I might be wrong here, but wasnt the Hull of the Pz4D where the driver sits kinda "standing out", and wasnt there this rod under the barrel? The current Pz4D is the crappiest, ugliest, vehicle there is. That said, its chassis seems oversized. Other vehicles that need facelifts are... ~The T34's, 76 first. ~The M10, chassis needs to be redone. ~The Sherman, need several variants of this beast, not counting the Howitzer. ~Stug3b... Filthy. ~Crusader Yeah I know there are things I missed, but Im hoping you people will add to this. But where the hell is the Pz3 if theres a friggen UFO in this game?




LIGHTNING [NL]

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#2 14 years ago

Now now, calm down. The last time someone complained about there being tractors instead of panzer 3's one of the devs left. Remember, this is not a professional game-making team, and they're all doin this in their spare time. Now, I'm sure they all know very well what you want, just have a little more patience.




Driver

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Oh, dont baby me Lightning. The dev didnt leave because someone complained, he left because he was tired. Half of this board is dedicated to complaining, Im sure the dev's are big boys who can all handle criticizm, if not... Well dang. I think I just made 4 of them quit.

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#4 14 years ago
DriverThe dev didnt leave because someone complained, he left because he was tired.

Tired of people complaining, yes. :p




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#5 14 years ago

Sort you attitude please Driver. You never stop the damn complaints.




Driver

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#6 14 years ago

I'll quit complaining if you manage to keep one of your sigs for longer than a week...




S1l3ntSt4lk3r

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#7 14 years ago

no matter how many vechicles u can put in a game, nothing can be realistic or historical accurate as the real thing, the devs are working hard to keep u guys happy and they know stuff is missing, shit the model of Hitler is missing, FH and no other game can can achieve 100% realism not even 20% BTW: that was the worse insult ever, driver your avatar owns saint, and urs too driver but noone is close to mine :D




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#8 14 years ago

The PIVF did see desert action. The Puma only saw limited desert use (none according to 2 sources I've seen, but who knows). That's the main reason for the addition. I'd rather have a IVF in that map anyways. The speed is unrealistically slow, and some devs dont agree that it needs to be faster, so don't put any money on that improvement. The long 75mm cannon is better then the U.S. and brittish guns. The tank silhouette is pretty large, though and it has no armor to speak of. At least none that will stop a Sherman round.

Also the Puma is not a tank. It is a scout vehicle and is meant to be used in a different role then a tank. I know it wouldn't matter as far as armor is concerned, because a P3, P4 and a Puma will all die from a Sherman or Crusader round, but the speed advantage of the Puma could unbalance things as well as look gay.

The ideal solution, if we can't get a Panzer3 (I've heard rumours confirming that it WILL in fact be in .65) is a tank destroyer. PanzerJagers or Marder series TDs would be good alternatives. Germany is destroyed on the ground in the desert, and the lack of deployable flak88s is confounding as well, since Afrika was one of the first big uses of the weapon against tanks.

No long-barreled guns at all in Desert maps for Germany is the issue here. Wespes are at best poor tank killers requiring a direct hit, and being very slow to reload, and having to hit a vulnerable spot. I've seen Crusaders shrug off a direct shell to the front armor, which is absurd.




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#9 14 years ago

I think the mod and its maps need lots more AT guns in general. Right now you are lucky if you find one that you can point at the enemy. Thankfully they will be at least fully rotatable which is something at least. Throw some more towable 88's in & lets see how it goes.




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#10 14 years ago
DriverOk, putting the IV F2 on the desert maps as a replacement to the Pz3 is to say the least bullshit... Thing being that if the speed of the Pz4's isnt fixed in 0.65, well... Good luck traveling on maps long distances, the thing is a little faster than the Matilda2. I suggest a far better replacement... The Puma! Why the Puma? Its gun is the same as on the Pz3. As for the Pz3 itself, well... What the hell is wrong with you people? This mod has been in the making for quite some time now and we still dont have a Pz3? The Canadians are better equiped than the Germans in the Desert. Something aint right... I mean, I know all the little things that put it out of commision right now... Bump mapping, not enough time, blah, blah, blah... Well. It doesnt feel right that the frist vehicle the team decided to use bump mapping on is the Pz3... That said the damn thing should've been out as soon as the team decided to make Desert Rose, or that Egypt map (if they made it). I wouldnt care if it looked as crappy as the Panther as long as 2 versions of it were out. One with a 37mm and another with a 50mm gun. Other than that... Some vehicles need makeovers... Pz4 is the one that comes straight into mind. I might be wrong here, but wasnt the Hull of the Pz4D where the driver sits kinda "standing out", and wasnt there this rod under the barrel? The current Pz4D is the crappiest, ugliest, vehicle there is. That said, its chassis seems oversized. Other vehicles that need facelifts are... ~The T34's, 76 first. ~The M10, chassis needs to be redone. ~The Sherman, need several variants of this beast, not counting the Howitzer. ~Stug3b... Filthy. ~Crusader Yeah I know there are things I missed, but Im hoping you people will add to this. But where the hell is the Pz3 if theres a friggen UFO in this game?

Shut up you whiny punk. The devs have stated a dozed times what the deal with the PzIII is. And I got news for you, The PzIII isnt any faster than a PzIV.

You want it done faster then get off your butt and learn modeling and do it yourself.

If it annoys you TOO DAMM BAD. Go play DC if you dont like it. You whine more than the noobs and thats saying something.