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Cpt Butterpants

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8th February 2005

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#1 13 years ago

Hey i was playing in Nordwind last night and having hell being the Axis -even with a trusty Tiger i got pwned by the M36 (even though i hit it twice) -anyhow i digress. What i was curious about is how accurate are these battles? Did the Axis really have that hard a time i am assumming so. Also was Caen pretty rough on the Allies to take? I do love the challenge in these two maps of being the underdog if you will.




Grape

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#2 13 years ago

Insert amazing detailed response from Anlushac11 with links to various informative websites with abstracts of each weapon, vehicle and troop breakdown from each opposing force.




MkH^

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#3 13 years ago

If I remember correctly, the allies lost around 400 tanks during Operation Goodwood, so it certainly wasn't an easy task at least.




Cpt Butterpants

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#4 13 years ago
GrapeInsert amazing detailed response from Anlushac11 with links to various informative websites with abstracts of each weapon, vehicle and troop breakdown from each opposing force.

:lol: :lol: exactly -thats what i was expecting :beer:




FactionRecon

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#5 13 years ago

insert intellectual retort to Anlushac11's analasis of said troop movements and weapon use regarding why his opinion is flawed because of certain obtuse circumstances at the time of the battle.




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#6 13 years ago
Cpt ButterpantsHey i was playing in Nordwind last night and having hell being the Axis -even with a trusty Tiger i got pwned by the M36 (even though i hit it twice) -anyhow i digress. What i was curious about is how accurate are these battles? Did the Axis really have that hard a time i am assumming so. Also was Caen pretty rough on the Allies to take? I do love the challenge in these two maps of being the underdog if you will.

Nordwind: Axis forces attempt armored offensive through woods in winter. Goodwood: Allies attack determined, well-armed German defenders through villages and hedgerows without element of surprise. No detailed analysis needed :D




emonkies

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#7 13 years ago

OK here goes.

Operation Nordwind is a attempt at realism but I dont think it works because it cant represent the fact that the American troops were low on ammo, were suffereing from exposure, were suprised and off balance due to the speed and ferocity of the German attacks, and was mostly combat engineers and gree troops fighting combat veteran troops.

It doesnt feel like a German assault, it feels like a sparring match with both sides fighting over a few flags. It should feel like a push or the flags should be in a linear fashion and the Allies have to fall back. Right now it just turns into another series of flag chasing and the woods allow Allied troops to infilitrate by ones and two's to capture any flag.

Its not a bad map, it just doesnt feel like a Bulge map, it feels like a winter map that could be anywhere on the Western front where US troops faced Germans.

As for the vehicles? No a M36 should not survive a hit from a Tiger, its still basically a Sherman hull. I have not had alot of problems with M36's so Im assuming it was a lag problem.

There is also not near enough fog, as in I feel visibility is to good. The weather was bad enough that the Allied air forces could not operate.

I think Goodwood is a good map and is fairly realistic. In game the German armor is outnumbered 2 to 1 but if handled properly the German armor still exacts a heavy toll. I would like see a few more tree and alot more ground cover like bushes, grass, and shrubs for infantry and tanks to hide in. For instance add bushes and shrubs and add grass or wheat/oats to one of the open fields. I also would liek to see deployable and moveable PAK guns or remove them altogether and repalce with Marders or Jagdpanzer IV/70's




GI_JOEjk

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#8 13 years ago
MkH^If I remember correctly, the allies lost around 400 tanks during Operation Goodwood, so it certainly wasn't an easy task at least.

If I recall, the British had over 600 tanks knocked out, but 200 were repairable. So 400 destoyed sounds about right. Operation Goodwood was a five mile long tank grave yard.roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif




Cyb3rwarrior

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#9 13 years ago

Plus a half mile area of German front line obliterated by the RAF.




Neighbor Kid

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#10 13 years ago

hey butterpants, did you see any hit reconitoin signs? also anlushac, just a question,.. in the game is it becuase of the ammo FH uses that neither the M36 nor the Firefly can penetrate a tiger in one hit?