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#1 13 years ago

Hello folks,

I was looking at a few sites regarding the Sherman Firefly and they all seem to suggest that it was not in service with the US because they were not convinced about the effectiveness of the 17-pounder. Were the Americans correct about the 17lb gun or was it because they did not want a British gun on an American tank?




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#2 13 years ago

The refused the 17lbr, insisting on their own, weaker, 76mm cannon instead. How man lives this cost is anyone's guess. But I can tell you it did save tons of German lives...




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#3 13 years ago

Like they rejected to use more DD tanks and other funnies during the D-day.




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#4 13 years ago

On D-day they used almost all of possible landing crafts, from Hobart's toys only DD tanks and buldogers.




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#5 13 years ago

Maybe they did not want the 17 pounder because better tanks were in the pipeline, but wouldn't it have been cheaper for the US to license-build the gun and then modify existing Shermans?




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#6 13 years ago

No there wasn't any better tanks in needed ammount, modificating existing tanks would cause a lot of problems. They didn't wan't to build new models because they would need to change the constructing process, I think but not sure.




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#7 13 years ago

A number of M4A3's were upgunned in Britain on the behalf of the US Army, however IIRC there was a shortage of ammunition and the war ended before they could be used. As for the funnies, turning down the Bobbin's and Crab's was sheer idiocy, as was launching the DD's out too far at Omaha. The Bobbins would've prevented a number of Shermans from sinking into the soft sand.




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#8 13 years ago

Somehow, i still think that a combination of Churcill and Cromwell wins over 2 M4A1 Shermans /w M3 cannon. But numbers that count, as the narator on the Discovery channel commented on why he put Sherman on #10 of the most feared tanks, as for USSR's T-50 tanks at #5. I also study about manufacturing plants in US since the day Ford implemented his 'mass production' system. Where all production lines in a large plant produce exactly the same model. Some design alteration would cause whole shut down of the plant to be re-arranged. No wonder why: Numbers vs Superiority. May also explains why 'bombing the Reich's industry is so important.




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#9 13 years ago

Somehow, i still think that a combination of Churcill and Cromwell wins over 2 M4A1 Shermans /w M3 cannon. But numbers that count, as the narator on the Discovery channel commented on why he put Sherman on #10 of the most feared tanks, as for USSR's T-50 tanks at #5. I also study about manufacturing plants in US since the day Ford implemented his 'mass production' system. Where all production lines in a large plant produce exactly the same model. Some design alteration would cause whole shut down of the plant to be re-arranged. No wonder why: Numbers vs Superiority. May also explains why 'bombing the Reich's industry is so important.




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#10 13 years ago

Somehow, i still think that a combination of Churcill and Cromwell wins over 2 M4A1 Shermans /w M3 cannon. But numbers that count, as the narator on the Discovery channel commented on why he put Sherman on #10 of the most feared tanks, as for USSR's T-50 tanks at #5. I also study about manufacturing plants in US since the day Ford implemented his 'mass production' system. Where all production lines in a large plant produce exactly the same model. Some design alteration would cause whole shut down of the plant to be re-arranged. No wonder why: Numbers vs Superiority. May also explains why 'bombing the Reich's industry is so important.