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#1 10 years ago

I've been reading the wikipedia articles on the Sherman and its use by the british. According to the articles, the americans were mainly using the M4A3 version, while the Brits were mainly receiving M4A4s (and never used M4A3s). Now, wikipedia isn't the most trustworthy of sources, so is what I've read right?

More importantly, if it is right, how does this effect the mods use of shermans? There are allready M4A1s made for normandy, but all the talk has been of a further set of M4A3s. But if they were not used by the brits, then surely M4A4s would need to made as well (along with a Firefly).

Could someone with more knowledge than me either explain this please.




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#2 10 years ago

Really the only difference between the A3 and A4 is that the A4 slightly longer and the same models could be used for both.




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#3 10 years ago

M4A1 DD, Omaha beach:rolleyes: wreckdd1.jpg

For first release M4A1, another modifications of M4 Medium tank later.




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#4 10 years ago

Interesting, this implies a thoroughly sped-up production cycle. Can't wait.




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#5 10 years ago

Well We are know about M4A3, M4 Composite Hull, DD, Dozer, Crab, ARV, BARV, Tulip, T1E3 Mine Roller, Calliope... But All from this list good, but not most important stuff. We need to do PzKpfw IV Ausf.H, M3 Halftrack and more first it's real important stuff.




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#6 10 years ago

PzKpfw IV Ausf.H is the one with Shürzen?




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#7 10 years ago

Panzer 4H comes with and without Schürzen. The main difference between older models and the H is that it has now at the front a solid piece armour (80mm) instead of add-on armour that was bolted on it (50+23mm, Ausf. G). I think that gives it more stability. p1.jpg




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#8 10 years ago

Also, it has a slightly longer gun (L43 versus L48) so its better penetration, and yes, Schuerzen, plus often add on armour on the mantlet. The schurzen was incredibly common, I have rarely seen one without turret and side, though sometimes some bits might be removed to make repairs or escape easier. The main difference betweeen h and J:

"Ausf J was produced in mind to simplify the production by simplifying the design of Ausf H. In general, all characteristics of Ausf H were retained including weight, speed, mechanical components and armament. The first component deleted was the electric turret drive with auxiliary generator set, which resulted that the turret had to be traversed manually by hand. Its place was to be taken by 200-litre fuel tank after the production started in July of 1944. This increased the fuel capacity to 680 litres, increasing the combat range to over 300km. It is interesting to point out that German designers decided to increase the fuel capacity at the time when German Armed Forces faced serious fuel shortage problems. Problems were encountered with new fuel tanks and installations started in September of 1944. As the production continued, more modifications were made including: deletion of turret visor and pistol ports, installation of Pilze 2-ton crane mount sockets, introduction of Flammentoeter mufflers, conversion from plate Schurzen to wire-mesh Thoma type, reduction to 3 return rollers per side, installation of Naehverteidigungswaffe close defence system and ceasing application of Zimmerit paste. In addition to new modifications, numerous changes made to Ausf G and H were also applied to Ausf J."




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#9 10 years ago

I wonder how common, was the use of the "Naehverteidigungswaffe" Also is the process of manually traversing the turret not a major downside. more because it was the most numerous tank for the germans?




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#10 10 years ago

It made it just as slow turret speed as with the Panzer 4 F2 or such, but it simplified production, the main point of the J series.

As for the Naehverteidigunswaffe, far as I know, it was very common on late war german Pz4s, tigers, panthers, etc....