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Knoffhoff

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#21 15 years ago

A couple of days ago I was watching a interview with a german soldier who was fighting in the hurtgen forest. As most of you will know artillery was heavily used used there. But that german soldier says that he was never scared of american artillery sice they did never concentrate their fire one spot but were firing randomly all over the place. German soldiers were able to hear the sounds of the grenades and could find cover if it was comig down to close. There where hardly any casualties by experienced soldiers, only new ones got hit by artillery. On the other side german artillery concentrated their fire on spots where masses of enemy infantry was spotted and caused heavy losses there.

For all those of you who understand german I'll post the link to that interview. http://home.scarlet.be/~cv920172/indexenglish.htm look at images/video ---> Video Interview Edmund Zatlewski

edit. @ komrade didn't see your post, but it seems like german soldiers expeienced the the opposite of what you have said




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#22 15 years ago

I also believe mortars were the most deadly but for a different reason. You could, conceivably, drop a round down the tube instantly after the first. They could fire very fast as compared to artillery and I think this should be modeled in FH2. Not instant fire mind you but something like 3-5 seconds would be good so that one or two mortars can lay down barrages. Especially since there will be a commander class with artillery mortars should play a larger part since there will be atleast some aritllerymen cleared up from their guns.




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#23 15 years ago
But the Russian winter is not a weapon, is it?

Yes, it is (dictionary.com):

  1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
  2. Zoology. A part or organ, such as a claw or stinger, used by an animal in attack or defense.
  3. A means used to defend against (...) another:(...)
The human mind

I was considering a pseudo-smart-ass answer, too. What about your heart and brain desisting due to injury or some other cause? I think that was the final cause of 100% of the deaths.




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#24 15 years ago
knoffhoffA couple of days ago I was watching a interview with a german soldier who was fighting in the hurtgen forest. As most of you will know artillery was heavily used used there. But that german soldier says that he was never scared of american artillery sice they did never concentrate their fire one spot but were firing randomly all over the place. German soldiers were able to hear the sounds of the grenades and could find cover if it was comig down to close. There where hardly any casualties by experienced soldiers, only new ones got hit by artillery. On the other side german artillery concentrated their fire on spots where masses of enemy infantry was spotted and caused heavy losses there. For all those of you who understand german I'll post the link to that interview. http://home.scarlet.be/~cv920172/indexenglish.htm look at images/video ---> Video Interview Edmund Zatlewski edit. @ komrade didn't see your post, but it seems like german soldiers expeienced the the opposite of what you have said

Very interesting site, you can see from the stories how artillery was not only dangerous but also scared everybody to death. It's especially interesting for to read because I live in Aachen and even wandered around in some of the woods which are described in this article.




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#25 15 years ago
But the Russian winter is not a weapon, is it?

Yes, it is (dictionary.com):

  1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
  2. Zoology. A part or organ, such as a claw or stinger, used by an animal in attack or defense.
  3. A means used to defend against (...) another:(...)
The human mind

I was considering a pseudo-smart-ass answer, too. What about your heart and brain desisting due to injury or some other cause? I think that was the final cause of 100% of the deaths.




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#26 15 years ago
But the Russian winter is not a weapon, is it?

Yes, it is (dictionary.com):

  1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
  2. Zoology. A part or organ, such as a claw or stinger, used by an animal in attack or defense.
  3. A means used to defend against (...) another:(...)
The human mind

I was considering a pseudo-smart-ass answer, too. OMG LIBERTARD MORONS THEIR WUZZ N0 DEADLIE VEAP00N GUNS DONT KILL TEH PPPL TEH PPL KILL TEH PEPPL!!!111111:smokin: What about your heart and brain desisting due to injury or some other cause? I think that was the final cause of 100% of the deaths.

I guess the rifle.

Anyhow, since this is one weird thread idea, I desist.




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#27 15 years ago

Kinda off topic, not important quote that I feel like posting anyway. When commenting on artillery, and unnamed British soldier replied: When the Jerry's fire their artillery, we duck. When we fire our artillery, the jerries duck. When the Yanks fire artillery, EVERYBODY ducks!




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#28 15 years ago

Thats actually a pretty funny quote




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#29 15 years ago

The answer is simple:MAN[Animal]!




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#30 15 years ago

I seem to recall reading somewhere that more casualties were inflicted by artillery than any other means. That would include mortars, of course, but most artillery chores in battle are handled by large groups of weapons firing in concert. Mortars tend to be handled on company/battalion level.

Artillery back then was much different than now; what with GPS and computer-controlled firing and all.

Generally, the WWII artilleryman relied on plotting mathmatically on a map using an artillery template which would show the approximate elevation and deflection from the base position. Forward observers would then further direct the rounds more accurately onto the target. GIs of all services found that smaller mortars could be accurately fired at shorter ranges simply by jamming the base into an inverted helmet and holding the tube. This eliminated carrying around the heavy calibrated bipod and baseplate assembly.