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DuaL

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#1 14 years ago

Hey guys, newbie here :cya: I play mostly on the Wolf server under the name of Tech .. I'm the guy with the probably biggest list of horrendous (sp?) newbie mistakes :deal: :eek: Anywhoo, what I wanted to say was that the P38 needs some more love!! I'm not trying to push this infront of anything .. but if there could be some more maps featuring the P38 in future publishes I'd be mucho happy :bows: Perhaps even more diff. versions of this beauty? Dogfighter version: 4 12,7mm Machineguns and 1 20mm machinegun Rocket version wich is already in (maybe change it to have the same rockets as the Typhoon on Breakthrough?) Bomber version: 2 907kg bombs

The Lockheed P-38 Lightning was simply the most versatile aircraft used in World War II. After a lengthy developmental period, the P-38 eventually flourished in multiple roles. In its designed role, the P-38 was an effective fighter and was the main aircraft for most of the aces in the Pacific Theater of Operations. However, the P-38 was modified to become a world-class reconnaissance aircraft, an effective night fighter, and even an excellent strike/attack aircraft. Many bomber crewmembers would see its distinctive profile approaching and feel a little safer. Many enemy fighters and bombers would tremble with fear with the approach of the Fork-Tailed Devil!

Heres a good site with mucho info & sounds: http://p-38online.com/ Any thoughts on this?:feedback:




[11PzG]matyast

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#2 14 years ago

the P38 needs final touches...it turns too well..and it is like the FW190 in 0.5...so I think you have to wait with that....




DuaL

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#3 14 years ago

No rush, just hope to see it in eventually ;)




[11PzG]matyast

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#4 14 years ago

Yes...well...I think they have higher priorities at the moment....mostly with other planes...but I think some day we will see it...




FunkLord

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#5 14 years ago

I'm with tech, I love the p38, it'd be great to dogfight more often with it.




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#6 14 years ago

It turns too well? Hell, it was one of USAF's best fighterplanes.




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#7 14 years ago
MkH^It turns too well? Hell, it was one of USAF's best fighterplanes.

That's right......there was a documentary on P38's the other night where veterans told what it was like and what it could do.

Although US tactic was not to dogfight and turn with the Zero's, wich even Army US P38 would lose, but to use it's superior speed to make passes at the relative slow flying zero's.......that freaked the hell out of these Jappanese pilots and resulted in high losses for the Jappanese and almost no losses for the Army US P38's.

The poor Jappanese must have felt like helpless sitting ducks with Army US P38 thundering past them time after time guns blazing.

Navy US fighters used this tactic too with their fast Hellcat and Corsair.

Above Germany it was diffrent, since the Luftwaffe was a highspeed combat tactics using airforce too.......the airforce US P38 could not outrun Luftwaffe fighters, but could outturn them. Some aces even refused to fly P51 and P47 ( that were faster and more powerfull ) because of the superior turning and climbing airforce US P38

Funny side note is : The guys that really fought in P38 ( and thus really could have been killed ) didn't like dogfights at all. They discribed the feeling and the fear asif a lunatic with a shotgun chasing you on foot across several building blocks, and you try to run for your life.

They also explained a fighter is nothing more then a flying gascan containing a couple of hundred gallons of high explosive fuel. Since they shot each other with incendary ( fire causing ) rounds being hit in one of the tanks meant instantly blow up.

Although their killratio was extremely good, the Pacific stationed army pilots did lose 60 % of their pilots......almost non of the shot down pilots over jappanese held territory ever returned alive. ( Jappanese were real sick warcrime bastards )




NoCoolOnesLeft

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#8 14 years ago

Hey Tech...

Took you a while to find the forums eh? good to see you around :)




ManiK

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#9 14 years ago
maybe change it to have the same rockets as the Typhoon on Breakthrough?)

No.




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#10 14 years ago
MkH^It turns too well? Hell, it was one of USAF's best fighterplanes.

That doesn't mean it will turn well. It was an ok turn plane but it was big and heavy and best suited to boom and zoom. A P38 turn fighting won't last long because it lacked the superior roll needed to out manouver smaller IJN and LW planes.

Pilots in the Pacific flew and attacked in formation, a lone P38 was considered a easy target for Japanese pilots so they would stick together, retain there energy and not lose it by turning.

As Beast of War says, it was a different story in the ETO as German planes were allot faster than the IJN planes and could out turn, out climb and out dive the P38. The PTO and the P38 turned out the majority of US aces in the war however.