Irwin RommelThe panzer VI tank were one of the best tanks in the war after the Tiger and the T-34 but now when you in this rooling pierce of metal, the only whay to knock down T-34 is to drive behind it and give 2-3 PV/AT grenades in its ass if you cant get the chance just drive like held and try shoot on it. But allways remember to have Infantery and aircraft as backup
:rolleyes: panzer VI!!! are you sure? however iam still suck on it till now, especially in a map like kursk, operation brag and some other original map from bf42 i have not remember yet
OhioanI guess that makes sense. If it had to be light and have cut armor, why is it the thrid slowest tank in FH right now?
IMHO, It seems slow because most maps put it up against newer tanks. Compare it to the Char, Matilda, R35, S35 (offroad), and it's speed doesn't look quite so bad :) It's speed should be close to that of the P3.
another problem is that the wespe is so worthless
D-Fensanother problem is that the wespe is so worthless
Not so, only yesterday i managed to take out a number of t34s on kharkov winter with a wespe. If i had to pick between a wespe and a panzer ivD i would take the wespe everytime. Once you know the trajectory of the gun and how much it rocks about you can do very well with one.
OhioanThe team SAID it was NOT for battling other tanks, so I'm wondering why it has AT ammo right now. If its meant for fire support, give it HE to further enforce its role and make it better at what its supposed to do. It cant kill tanks worth jack now anyways, so I dont see how switching the ammo could do any harm.
Like any other AFV on a batlefield the PzIVD was a fire support vehicle carrying mostly HE but it did carry HEAT rounds which could penetrate about 70mm-75mm of armor, that would be the Gr.38 HL/A and later the Gr.38 HL/B.
No different than US M7 Priests or Sherman (105) carrying mostly HE and several HEAT rounds.
Brit never seemed to have developed a HEAT round for the 25lbr due to its very good muzzle velocity so they fired a solid shot AP round same as tanks carried but in effect yes even Sextons carried some AP rounds for self defense.
It'd really rock to have separate HE and AP ammo. That way the HE effective radius could be made better without making infantry TOO vulnerable, because you just might have an AP round in the barrel, and while you change, the infantry can run for cover... except if you mow 'em down with the MG ;) Then again that'd make StuGs even more vulnerable :rolleyes:
Jagoan Neon:rolleyes: panzer VI!!! are you sure? however iam still suck on it till now, especially in a map like kursk, operation brag and some other original map from bf42 i have not remember yet
The IV was a great tank, just the D kind of sucked in the AT role.
i found a short description of this tank in a game called blitzkrieg burning horizon here is a describtion: Reliable tank with a good maneuverability. light armor and somewhat underpower cannon. Good base for upgrades. later reclassified to a medium tank
spec: armanent primary:75 mm/L 24/Q 80 armanent secondary:2x7.92 mm/Q 2700 weight: 20 t speed: 40 km/h engine power: 300 hp crew: 5 armor min/max: 10/53 mm
i still have question, where are the secondary armanent from this tank?
One of the secondary mgs is located in the bow(The front hull superstructure, on the left if you're facing it), and the other is mounted coaxialy with the main gun, which means it's right next to the main gun, also on the left side if you're facing it. The one in the bow was manned by the radion-operator, the one coaxially was used by the gunner. Here is a picture, I know it is not a D, it is a F1, but it shows where the mgs are quite well. The bow one (I'm trying to keep this in simplistic terms but it gets hard) is the lower one opposite the driver's vision port. You can see that it is covered with some sort of cloth/cover in this photo. The coaxial one is to the left of the main gun, recognizable as the other thing sticking out of the mantley besides the main gun and the antenna deflector. Kevin
Of course after the Pz VI got its long barrel 75 (L/43 and L/48) the PzIII in the Ausf N received the short barrel 75 (L/24).
The Matilda II (and all Qf 2pr guns) lacked HE capacity and only had solid shot (AP). The 40mm Bofors didn't get AP until '42 and the HE was only really effective against soft skin vehicles and exposed infantry.
One thing I do know HE fragmentation radii for 37mm is 2m x 5m, 75mm is 3m x 9m, 88m is 9m x 18m and 105mm is 10m x 23m (think of an oval shape). I'm not certain of 150mm (5.5") but I believe it is near 21m x 37m. Mortars have a more circular radii 81mm being appoximately 7m. I can only imagine what a 230mm Nebelwerfer would be.