Warsaw Uprising: 63 days of honor -1 reply

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HeLmUt_KlAmKe

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#1 14 years ago

Hello there! Soldiers!

"In 1944 the legal Polish authorities in Warsaw decided to start an Uprising against the German invader. It resulted in a legal, well-organized and independent Polish state that existed in Warsaw for two months. Such a situation did not happen again before the collapse of the communist regime in 1989. The Uprising was to start on 1st August at 5 p.m. That decision was made the day before by General Tadeusz “Bór” Komorowski, Commander-in-Chief of the Home Army, in the presence of Colonel Antoni Chruściel “Monter,” Warsaw District Commander, and Jan Stanisław Jankowski, Government Deputy. Colonel Antoni Chruściel “Monter,” “Nurt” was appointed the Warsaw Uprising commander, whereas General Erich von dem Bach - commander of the German forces that were to crush the Uprising. A total of about 50 thousand German or allied with Germany soldiers took part in the action commanded by the latter. About 18 thousand Insurgent soldiers and 180 thousand civilians were killed during the battles in Warsaw. Furthermore, the Uprising resulted in the unimaginably severe and extensive damage – about 70-80% of the Warsaw buildings were destroyed by the German (during both the Uprising and the planned action of destroying the city afterwards). Moreover, due to the western Allies’ passiveness and breaking off the Soviet offensive, the Uprising failed also in political terms, namely instead of strengthening, it weakened the position of the Polish government in exile in London. The Uprising’s collapse meant losing hopes for the maintenance of Polish sovereignty after the Second World War. For several years the communist authorities manipulated the common perception of the Warsaw Uprising. They took no account of its being legal as well as of the existence of the Polish Secret Underground State (Polskie Państwo Podziemne) - a declared, rightful, civil government of Poland during the Uprising. Homage was paid to the Insurgents who were represented as victims of the supposedly criminal policy of the Polish civil authorities. The international aspect of the Uprising was either totally ignored or misrepresented, and the shameful role of the Soviet people in crushing the Insurgents’ resistance was passed over in silence. It was only in 1989, when Poland regained freedom, that a reliable analysis of the Warsaw Uprising history became possible"

Since on 1st August is the 60th Anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising, it would be a good idea to suggest it to the Devs of FH to create a map about those tragical events of WWII. I Prepared a small info about terrain, armies and weapons so here it is:

1. Terrain ---> Poland ---> Warsaw:

http://www.1944.pl/fileadmin/papcio-chmiel/stare-miasto.jpg

The Old Town during the Warsaw Uprising, German aerial photo [in the background: the Vistula with the Kierbedz bridge destroyed, in the middle: the Royal Castle ruined]

It a should be a city map with lots of streets and alleys, it should be rather small because the main weight is put on infantry, so no big and open spaces. The buldings that are already in BF/FH are okay, but i think that it would be nice and helpful that some of the building should be reskinned/modelled to add the atmosphere of those days.

Buildings:

http://www.bik.pl/tomek/lwowska/lwowska_44_wyjscie-po-powstaniu2_middle.jpg http://www.bik.pl/tomek/lwowska/lwowska_44_wyjscie-po-powstaniu_middle.jpg

And a operational plan (Lwowska street area)

Powstanie-plan.jpg blue dots- sewers red lines- baricades and trenches

2. Armies - Polish Underground Army (Armia Krajowa) vs. Germany (Wehrmacht & SS)

Polish uniform: http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/aa2/m_pol_post_ak_44.jpg

Germany: Well you have some good uniform already, but i'll just put this :) : http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/aa2/m_niem_piech_44.jpg

3. Weapons

- Vis Pistol [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/vis_mag.gif ] - Luger [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/aa2/para_bt_1z.gif ] - P38 [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/p38a1_bt.gif ] - Naganst Revolver [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/nagant_4bt.gif ] - Mauser K98 [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/maser_aces.gif ] - Bren [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/ak/bren.gif ] - MG34 [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/mg_34_2.gif ] - Błyskawica [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/blyskawica_bt.gif ] - Sten [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/sten_mk_2_bt.gif ] - Thompson [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/kedyw_pliki/thomson111.gif ] - MP38/40 [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/foty/mp_38_40.gif ] - PPsh-41 [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/ppsz_btt.gif ] - PIAT [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/aa3/piat_n_bt.gif ] - Panzerfaust [ http://www.worldwar2aces.com/panzerfaust.jpg ]

Vehicles:

Poles did capture some of german tanks and vehicles:

- 2x Panthers [ http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/anowe/panther3.jpg ] - 2x Sd.Kfz.251 D - JgPz 38 (t) [ http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/allied/mighetz-4.jpg ] - chevrolet 157 - Armored car FAI & BAI - Sd.Kfz.301 Borgward - tiger - few BMW motorbikes

Some of these vehicles didn't fought much, but i think that can be passed through ;)

For Germans : Everything :)

Well, i think that' that, i'll just leave some photos:

http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/foto.htm

Gentleman! You are dismissed!




S1l3ntSt4lk3r

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#2 14 years ago

great find, this map seems to be similar to Arnhem but with different armies and with no bridge




D-Fens

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#3 14 years ago

should have posted in the mapping forum :)




Zab

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#4 14 years ago

Wow, I think playing it would be a lot of fun. I always love playing the Poles on Weiss. Good find! :thumbsup:




Lobo

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#5 14 years ago

Wow...guys, learn how another anoying petition must be presented to the FH team :D J/K Good research, HeLmUt_KlAmKe




Kakoru

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#6 14 years ago

Heh. Warsaw uprising... Vive les Polish!




Okota

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#7 14 years ago

It's not an "another anoying petition" it's an wish of 40 000 000 ppl. :D and whole Polish Battlefield scene!




GOD111

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#8 14 years ago

Hmm I'm not sure I follow here...... Is this a custom made map, or is this guy just suggesting that a map SHOULD be like this???? And if this map DO exist, were do I download it? (<---That question is the same as, good idea)




Okota

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4th October 2003

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#9 14 years ago

there is no such map




MkH^

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#10 14 years ago

There was a nice scene in The Pianist picturing this event. One of my favorite movies ever. I highly suggest everyone interested in the issue to watch it.