will FH2 contain all the WW2 theaters as FH42 does? -1 reply

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foodmaniac2003

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#11 14 years ago
zuiquan1;3309845I really do hope China plays a role in FH2, they made many contributations to war that no one seems to realize, or admit too in some cases......

:deal::deal::deal:

YES!!!!!!

Chinese army ftw!!!!!




Johannes

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#12 14 years ago

Agreed 100%, I consider the Chinese Army (probably nationalist, but the People's can be represented too; maybe one map each?) a must by the time FH2 is completed. Here's how I wish FH2 went: 1. North Africa - We already know this is first, so no point re-arranging it. 2. Italian Campaign - Noticeably lacking in FH1 (was it even represented at all?). Map(s) on Sicily, several maps based around the southern Italian campaign (mainly Monte Cassino and Anzio), maybe a few maps up northern Italy. Italy is a fairly demanding campaign because of the diversity of troops involved. Americans would be necessary for Anzio, Italians on the Axis side for Sicily, French troops for the definitive breaking of the Gustav Line, Polish troops for the area around Monte Cassino, New Zealand/Indian troops if the battle for the village of Cassino wants to be displayed, Canadians for Ortona and/or northern Italy... Even if choosing only the most crucial moments of the Italian campaign, you'd still be stuck with a wide variety of armies. The good thing, however, is that every single one of them uses either American or British equipment (the French also had their own weapons, but those can be added later after the early war is completed), so at that point only the American and Italian weapons will have to be made. 3. Early Campaigns/Blitzkrieg - Underrepresented everywhere, I'd like this to get at least a decent showing in FH2. French and Polish weapons will be added, as well as the armies if they didn't already appear (Italian campaign). An interesting campaign would be the Norwegian campaign. Even if adding Norwegian troops would be a burden, the British and French also fought there (maybe an ideal cooperation map?). 4. Eastern European campaign - Everyone loves this one. Russian and Finnish weapons will have to be made (and if I remember correctly FH2 already has a head start on these). The Russian arsenal is pretty extensive, so I expect this update to be a really amazing one. Of course, the Finnish will probably again show up alongside the Germans. 5. Pacific/Far East campaign - The other primary Axis nation of the war, Japan, finally appears. I think it would be great, however, if the Chinese appeared on the Allied side this time. I think so far from what I can tell support for the inclusion of China is pretty strong. So I'm hoping the Far East is represented as well and not just the Pacific. 6. Western European campaign - No explanation necessary, except I'm hoping for a little action in southern France as well. ;)




Buddy Jesus

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#13 14 years ago

With all this talk about China as an army in the Pacific, looks like we forgot about good'ol'Great Britian. They were also in Asia and I think it'd be great to have a few battles against the Japs as the British.




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#14 14 years ago
Johannès;3310051so at that point only the American and Italian weapons will have to be made.

But I think its much harder than this. Didn't the Devs say the player models were extremly hard to put together. Your wishing for 7 new player skins for this Italy release. I'd be putting Pacific up around there too because only Japanese + American weapons would be needed. The British model and all the vanilla statics are available and you already have the chinese player models which i'm guessing may make their job a bit easier/quicker




ctz

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#15 14 years ago
zuiquan1;3309845I really do hope China plays a role in FH2, they made many contributations to war that no one seems to realize, or admit too in some cases......

i agree, being free of commercial constraints we can explore covering parts of world war 2 which were significant but are extremely rare in other world war 2-themed games. the japanese invasion of china, manchuria, burma, indonesia, new guinea, and others.




Johannes

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#16 14 years ago
Bourkey;3310477But I think its much harder than this. Didn't the Devs say the player models were extremly hard to put together. Your wishing for 7 new player skins for this Italy release. I'd be putting Pacific up around there too because only Japanese + American weapons would be needed. The British model and all the vanilla statics are available and you already have the chinese player models which i'm guessing may make their job a bit easier/quicker

Well, with a lot of the armies I don't think it would be that hard. The Polish, Canadians, and New Zealanders/Indians for example, wore British uniforms, except with different patches. The French had American, British, and French stuff, but for the most part American. Oftentimes the uniforms the French wore were not only just the American ones, but they didn't even have any distinguishing insignia to separate them from the American troops. But yes, Italy is an extremely difficult campaign to portray, and perhaps that's the reason no game has ever taken the pains to properly portray it. To be honest, there's only two reasons why I put Italy at no. 2 (I personally would rather have had the Blitz first). First, the majority of people seem to want it. Second, saving the Italian campaign for a later time would almost certainly doom it to mediocrity. If, for example, it appeared at a very late date in the mod's production, the mod would soon end and not a lot of stuff will be added to the Italian campaign. Take for example the Italian army in FH1. Sure, they had most of the necessary equipment and were greatly designed. But they only appear in one level. The French were even worse off, appearing in only one level, with a uniform that still had the US backpack, and, worse, no Chatellerault. :( The Italian Campaign cannot really be portrayed with one or two levels, and I know it seems extremely paranoid of me, but I still have to say that I have a strong feeling that, if saved for the last minute, it will get the short end of the stick. On the other hand, saving the West, East, or Pacific Fronts for a later time will not harm them because, being the most important major fronts, there's very little chance the devs. will skip over them or do a sloppy job on them. See the difference? The Italian front is not as glorified as those three fronts, so skipping over it would not seem a terrible loss (after all, just about 80% of WW2 games get away with that). As such, there would not be as much motivation as there would be to, say, do the Pacific theater. Of course, I could just be very paranoid. On the other hand, if we were to go in terms of convenience (ignoring possible psychological effects) then yes, the Pacific front should go before the Italian Campaign. I would probably say that in terms of convenience, after North Africa should be: 1. Pacific/Far East 2. Eastern Front 3. Blitzkrieg 4. Italian Campaign 5. Western Front




Meadow

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#17 14 years ago

I don't understand why so many people wish for completely new theatres. We all want FH2 to be made as quickly as possible, don't we? To me, the most logical option would be this: http://gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=218691

I made the thread almost a year ago and things got a bit off topic at the end, if anyone would like to bump it and restart discussion I'd be happy for them to.




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#18 14 years ago

Seems like the Pacific would be the easiest to do next considering that BF2 already has a plethora of Pacific vegetation and statics. Maybe for 2 maps max.

The Western Front is going to take the most work by far.




Meadow

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#19 14 years ago

Considering the Eastern Front was bigger and had a lot of equipment that was only used on the Eastern Front, I would disagree and say that it will be the Eastern Front that will take the most work.




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#20 14 years ago

The Eastern Front also doesn't need a whole lot of statics unless you factor in Stalingrad. The Western Front's entire environment will have to be created from scratch.