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The Typer

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#1 11 years ago

I was in Gamestop the other day just looking around doing nothing, long story. Anyways, I noticed on the shelf, Halo 2 for Vista. I asked the worker if Halo 2 was out for Vista already. I figured if it was available a ton of people would be talking about it already and driving me nuts, along with dozens of advertisements. But he said it wasn't, it was coming out in May. He started to explain a few reasons why I would like to buy it, "You can play with people on Xbox Live" was one of them. But eventually he mentioned, "And it is the first game to support DX 10." I replied, "Yeah, that's the reason I always say the PC is on top right now. You have this whole line of next-gen consoles, Xbox 360, PS3, and the Wii, they were all released without DX 10. Only the PC can carry DX 10 right now."

"For now." He replied. We talked for a little more and I mentioned Crysis, which as most of you know looks like one of the best games this year. This game also uses DX 10. He replied, "Yeah, I've seen it. And it looks good, but we haven't seen the gameplay yet."

This brings me to my questions:

Haven't there already been some games shown off that support DirectX 10 before Halo 2 was shown off. Doesn't Flight Simulater X support it? Crysis, we all know that game uses DX 10 (in fact Crytek plans it to run better in DX 10).

I thought DX 10 was only available via hardware. Meaning that someone who wants to get Direct X 10 on their console would have to go out, buy a videocard for the console that uses DX 10, and manually install it. This would mean that there is no "for now" it is "until a new streamline of next-gen consoles come out.

And lastly, which is more of a response instead of a question. Gameplay has already been shown for Crysis! We've seen a ton of the features that will be there. We have been shown completely customizable armor and weapons, an awesome physics engine, and the open non-linear world of Crytek games. I just wrote this one to argue for fun.

Oh he also mentioned that when we watch those videos the developers use top of the line hardware. He beats me there I have to agree. But when Vista problems are completely solved along with any possible DX 10 problems, AND when all problems with LINKS related to hardware and Vista are solved, many people will be buying top of the line hardware then so that they have a really nice system with bug free Vista. Or at least I'm doing that. So then most people will have systems that have hardware that can only run on Vista and hardware that can top or run games like Crysis perfectly.




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#2 11 years ago

Direct x is dpwnloadable in billions of places, mostly because developers need to include it with their games.




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#3 11 years ago
CLONECOMMANDER501;3599822Direct x is dpwnloadable in billions of places, mostly because developers need to include it with their games.

Direct X itself is downloadable, yes. You can "download" Direct X 10 (when it comes out), but whether or not it's usable is dependent upon your video card. If you have basically any video card that's not an 8800 or higher, you won't be able to run DX10.




The Typer

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#4 11 years ago

What about for consoles? Will they be used on the current line of next gen consoles (Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360)? There is a difference between DX and DX 10. DX 10 for PC is only available via hardware. Or buying a DX 10 video card.




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#5 11 years ago

Direct X is a collection of API's that have been created by Microsoft for handling things like Games programming, especially on the PC, and Microsoft consoles.

API = Application Programming Interface

There are only very few video cards on the market that support Direct X 10 to the max, such being the 8800GTX, and the API itself is only available in use with Windows Vista.

Many games use the direct X 10 shader, the shader is what games use to render their models, textures, things like that. Flight Simulator X being one of them. As well as Company of Heroes, and so on.

The PS3 and Wii can't make use of these of Direct X due to Microsoft owning the product, but the Xbox 360 currently makes use of it.

I was in Gamestop the other day just looking around doing nothing, long story. Anyways, I noticed on the shelf, Halo 2 for Vista. I asked the worker if Halo 2 was out for Vista already. I figured if it was available a ton of people would be talking about it already and driving me nuts, along with dozens of advertisements. But he said it wasn't, it was coming out in May. He started to explain a few reasons why I would like to buy it, "You can play with people on Xbox Live" was one of them. But eventually he mentioned, "And it is the first game to support DX 10." I replied, "Yeah, that's the reason I always say the PC is on top right now. You have this whole line of next-gen consoles, Xbox 360, PS3, and the Wii, they were all released without DX 10. Only the PC can carry DX 10 right now."

The first game to support Direct X 10? No. He is wrong there. It may be the first RELEASED game, I dont know on Age of Conan and Crysis release dates, but those are the only other 2 games that will fully support it in the future.

Yes, currently only the PC can carry DX10, but that is due to its exclusiveness to Vista. We'll most likely see Microsoft's next gen console use DX10. Ill buy that.

And lastly, which is more of a response instead of a question. Gameplay has already been shown for Crysis! We've seen a ton of the features that will be there. We have been shown completely customizable armor and weapons, an awesome physics engine, and the open non-linear world of Crytek games. I just wrote this one to argue for fun.

Yea you're right. His wrong. Gameplay has been shown for it. No idea where he got his info from.

Oh he also mentioned that when we watch those videos the developers use top of the line hardware.

Of course they do. When you develop a product you dont want slow-downs, lag, you want to see your product at its full potential. And of course, you want buyers to see what they want, the gorgeous graphics, clever physics systems, and so on.




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#6 11 years ago

pc will be the only system capable of running games in dx10, as far as i know. i don't think the video hardware in 360 or ps3 will support it. and certainly not wii. wii is a new system but it's not technically next gen. if any of the systems support it, i would guess ps3 because of how much extra processing power it has, but i still doubt it. both ps3 and 360 came out while dx10 was still under development.