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CyberRaptor

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#1 10 years ago

There have been some great ones over the years, but it's really gotten to be a tired retread, one that I thought the gaming industry was finally moving on from into more modern shooters. Now I'm hearing that the next COD game is back to World War II, and we've got another Brothers in Arms expansion, and more Medal of Honor. :uhoh:

Some of you are still excited about it I'm sure, but I for one would like to see a wider variety of shooters, especially some of the more realistic and tactical ones like S.W.A.T. 4, Operation Flashpoint, and GRAW. Anyone else with me on this?




BlitZ, The 57th

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#2 10 years ago

:ditto:

But if there were games that used WW2's weapons and technology on a totally made up environment(or made up plot), that will be a nice change. Its always follow this follow that, whatever happened to innovation?

etc. for once I'd like to see relic make something warhammer-ish without following the real warhammer plots, like some unit related to the race which still looks good enough and has that 'oompfh' in it.




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#3 10 years ago

SWAT 4 is pretty awesome, me and a few others used to play it regularly.

But yeah I agree, there's far too many WWII games out there.




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#4 10 years ago
-={Stalwart Death}=-;4591626etc. for once I'd like to see relic make something warhammer-ish without following the real warhammer plots, like some unit related to the race which still looks good enough and has that 'oompfh' in it.

i fail to see what your getting at with this. little more info plz? but yeah, the WWII series is really dried up. COD5 maybe better since it takes things to the pacific and the pacific doesnt get much attention. damn it make something about the vientam war. or is that too demolarizing for a game?




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#5 10 years ago
CyberRaptor;4591609There have been some great ones over the years, but it's really gotten to be a tired retread, one that I thought the gaming industry was finally moving on from into more modern shooters. Now I'm hearing that the next COD game is back to World War II, and we've got another Brothers in Arms expansion, and more Medal of Honor. :uhoh:

I think one of the reasons that WW2 is still a popular background for shooters is that it was pretty much the last major war that involved significant close-engagements for infantry. Vietnam has been used a couple of times, but it's not as exciting a backdrop as WW2 is for games. Another good reason is that the Nazis have become this faceless enemy who is universally hated, so nobody really complains when you slaughter them by the boatload. Which is probably also why you rarely see a single-player campaign where you play as a Nazi soldier.

But it is getting a bit much now. Are developers really so lacking in creativity that they can't come up with their own, original background? Look at CoD4, or Battlefield: Bad Company - they had no problems with inventing their own fictional countries with their own fictional enemies and wars. There's nothing stopping us from going further into the future without losing that sense of realistic combat either.

But as always, developers and publishers are wary about rocking the boat. WW2 sells well, so they continue churning out the same old shit safe in the knowledge that it'll make them money.

Some of you are still excited about it I'm sure, but I for one would like to see a wider variety of shooters, especially some of the more realistic and tactical ones like S.W.A.T. 4, Operation Flashpoint, and GRAW. Anyone else with me on this?

I wasn't a fan of GRAW, but SWAT 4 and OpFlash were great. Fortunately:

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BlitZ, The 57th

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#6 10 years ago
crisissuit3;4591699i fail to see what your getting at with this. little more info plz? but yeah, the WWII series is really dried up. COD5 maybe better since it takes things to the pacific and the pacific doesnt get much attention. damn it make something about the vientam war. or is that too demolarizing for a game?

Ye know, for instance someone creates something, then the fanbase just rants and rails about how it isn't related to the real plot or idea at all. They want game units to be exactly what was created and not new creative ones? Like they can't accept new stuff.

Its related to WW2 fans not whining about how WW2 games have to be restricted to real history. Like I've said above, just plain made from scratch plots using WW2 weaponry and technology.




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#7 10 years ago

WW2 is the perfect setting for a game.

You have two equal sides, with a deep and broad history across a wide variety of theatres, with technology and progression not seen to be explored elsewhere. There are universally known figures (Hitler, Eisenhower, Stalin, Churchill etc) as well as the even more popular pieces of technology. It's a scenario that has everything mapped out brilliantly for a developer.

I agree with you to an extent. I think there are enough poorly done WW2 games, which severely flood the genre, but there is plenty of room for good and innovative areas within the WW2 scene.




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#8 10 years ago

It doesn't bother me that developers keep making WWII games as long as they're made well. I could just as easily say I wish they'd stop making so many of the lore/magic RPGs that I'm not into, but to each their own.

I'm one of those whom is definitely not WWII intolerant. Give me everything from World at War to RTCW 2, I can take it in mass quantities and not overdose.




crisissuit3

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#9 10 years ago
-={Stalwart Death}=-;4591769Ye know, for instance someone creates something, then the fanbase just rants and rails about how it isn't related to the real plot or idea at all. They want game units to be exactly what was created and not new creative ones? Like they can't accept new stuff.

well relic isnt really allowed to make any new units because they dont own the warhammer 40k franchise, they just make games for games workshop.

Its related to WW2 fans not whining about how WW2 games have to be restricted to real history. Like I've said above, just plain made from scratch plots using WW2 weaponry and technology.

theres an idea, do something like resistance: fall of man, or medal of honor airborne, with the death tower and all. or my idea with rampaging clowns coming in midway through the game so the allies and axis have to work toghethor to stop them :)




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#10 10 years ago

I'm with Flodgy and Omen. WW2 is really an ideal setting, so it's no wonder it's a popular one.

Me, as long as the the gameplay is good and the setting believable, I'm fairly indifferent to the conflict at hand, be it WW2, Vietnam or some made up factions. WW2 is a bit more compelling though since there's so much actual history and diversity to draw upon. I don't mind a few embellishments to the facts either.