Limbo of the Lost- copyright infringement ahoy! 12 replies

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Commissar MercZ

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#1 10 years ago

This could fit in the Oblivion forum, but I think the ramifications of his can apply to all games in general.

Limbo of the Lost. Or the Frankengame.

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I was reading through some of my usual feeds when I came across this particular article from gamespot.

PC game accused of purloining Oblivion assets - PC News at GameSpot

This is also another good article.

GamePlasma.com - Gaming to the Next Level! Your Top Source for Up-to-the-Second Video Game News

Much of the hard work has also come from the fellows at the NeoGaf forums.

Limbo of the Lost stole from Oblivion, Morrowind, UT2K4, Diablo, Silent Hill, more? - NeoGAF

I'm not going to copy-paste the stuff since I want you to see some stuff with it. Basically, Limbo of the Lost is one of those point-and-click adventure games (think Myst and Monkey Island series). It was developed by a small UK developer, Majestic Studios and published by G2 Games in the UK. Obviously the whole game isn't copy-paste, but a good portion of it is.

This has been around since April, but steam is picking up now as Bethesda is going to press legal charges. The American Publisher, Tri-Synergy has pulled the game from further production and said they were unaware of the blatant rip-offs. The developer (small team of 3 or 4 people I read) is unable to be contacted as they went on "vacation" after releasing it.

Now I know games borrow stuff from each other all the time, but come on- you can't argue against this- it's pretty much copy-paste! In addition to Oblivion, they've have also lifted content from Morrowind, Diablo 2, Painkiller, Unreal Tournament 2003, Enclave, Unreal Tournament 2004, Black & White, Thief: Deadly Shadows, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Crysis (what? that's what the article says), Return to Castle Wolfenstein, World of Warcraft, scenes from the 1997 film Spawn, abd Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End.

Tri-Synergy (US publisher if you forgot) released this statement

– Tri Synergy, Inc. ( Tri Synergy - A revolutionary approach to software publishing) would like to publish an official comment regarding recent comparisons of level design and artwork between Majestic Studios’ Limbo of the Lost and Bethesda’s The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion/Eidos Interactive’s Thief: Deadly Shadows. Tri Synergy is just as shocked as everyone else is by the recent screenshot comparisons. At no point during our dealings with Majestic Studios up until the point that the comparison was first publicly made by a third party did we have any knowledge of these similarities. Additionally, Tri Synergy will discontinue distribution of Limbo of the Lost in both retail and online outlets. We have contacted the developer, Majestic, and are anxiously awaiting their response. As soon as we know more on this matter we will issue another statement. More information about Tri Synergy is available from Tri Synergy - A revolutionary approach to software publishing.

Remember that these publishers were probably caught unawares too. These kinds of publishers are like the book publishers in America when they bring small-time authors from Britain- most of the time they don't really thoroughly check the product, only distribute it.

For any of you curious Brits, it is retailed at 29.99 pounds.

These are the creators.

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Some screen comparisons.

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A custom map for UT2004, DM-Helmzdeep, by Angelheart UT2004-6-12-2008-DM-Helmzdeep-00035.jpg

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Similarities to the Silent Hill games here Snap15.jpg

They also ripped some assets from Unreal Tournament for that scene UT20042008-06-1202-29-25-76.png

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Woo photoshop! Snap1.jpg
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Fans of Morrowind should recognize the weapons, and that Orcish armor in the back. Snap14.jpg
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Painkiller pnklr-20080612-031757.jpg

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A RTCW map lol.jpg

And they use the wintermule engine. The banner on the page is quite lulzy now.

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And here are some trailers. Look carefully- you can see a shitload of things copied from more games and even films.

Gametrailers.com - Limbo of the Lost - Destiny Trailer Gametrailers.com - Limbo of the Lost - Trailer

Also, they're deliciously cheesy.

If you are curious about past incidents, here's an infamous Super Mario Bros. Clone- the Great Giana Sisters.

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So, what do you say?




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#2 10 years ago

I say...what the heck. I read about this yesterday. It's unbelievable that they would copy (essentially steal) so many things from other games. They are going to be in some big trouble now.Also, the (hilariously awful) trailer on youtube features a short clip at the end directly taken from movie Spawn. So not only are they copying entire levels and assets from other games...they took clips from random movies.




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#3 10 years ago

I know, I read about that little spawn bit on the forums. I was thinking "shit, why is that so familiar", then I saw a comparison of the two :X




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#4 10 years ago

Let us see... I'll bet a few millions in fine? Maybe around 850 Million dollars in copyright infringement? :rofl:Way to go! One thing they're doing better than the other developers; Comitting business suicide!




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#5 10 years ago
Serio;4383395Let us see... I'll bet a few millions in fine? Maybe around 850 Million dollars in copyright infringement? :rofl:Way to go! One thing they're doing better than the other developers; Comitting business suicide!

I'm not sure how exactly Beth'll pursue their options. Now that other games are involved, this'll be serious for the developers. As I said though, no one can see to reach them. They went on vacation shortly after they were "finished".




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#6 10 years ago

Seems the first few shots got borked.

First row is Limbo. Second row is corresponding Oblivion scenes.

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#7 10 years ago

When I read about this yesterday I was really surprised with the countless screenshots showing practically no difference. Heck, they might as well have just made a total conversion for Oblivion and profited off of advertisements on the website. Better than paying up at court.




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#8 10 years ago
Ensign Riles;4383791When I read about this yesterday I was really surprised with the countless screenshots showing practically no difference. Heck, they might as well have just made a total conversion for Oblivion and profited off of advertisements on the website. Better than paying up at court.

Yea, I know. A lot of their ripped backgrounds still have things like the Fighters' Guild insignia and the picture of Count Hassildor in the castle picture.

They built the game on the Wintermute engine, though TC probably would've been better for them if they wanted to rip that much content. Regardless they failed miserably and they are going to get some massive butt-hurt.




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#9 10 years ago

I believe Tri-Synergy when they said they had to idea so much ripping was going on. The developers sound like assholes. The game looks like a pile of shit anyway.




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#10 10 years ago

It is. Just watch the trailers. I swear it looks like they made them with windows movie maker.

This trailer has the Crysis rip (they feature a fly by of the island the game is set on) and even things ripped straight from Pirates of the Caribbean.

ftp://ftp.trisynergy.com/pub/LimboOfTheLost/LotL-Trailer.zip




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