Playstation Portable or Nintendo DS? 26 replies

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Myoushu

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#1 14 years ago

Which one do you like better? I'll put the PSP in the first post, and the DS in the second post. But I'll have to put in images gradually apparently. But I would not like to put more than two posts in a row, so I will put them in as more people post.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have found solid information on teh specifications of the PSP, UMD disc, and accessories. I am directly pasting the information.

PSP System Specs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PSP CPU Core

MIPS R4000 32-Bit Core 128 bits Bus 1~333 MHz @ 1.2V Main Memory: 8MB (eDRAM) Bus Bandwidth: 2.6 GB/sec Sub Memory: 2MB (OD RAM) @ 2.5 GB/sec I-Cache, D-Cache FPU, VFPU (Vector unit): @ 2.6 GFlops 3D-CG Extended Instructions 90nm CMOS

PSP Graphics Core 1

3D Curved Surface + 3D Polygon Compressed Texture Hardware Clipping, Morphing, Bone( Hardware Tessellator Bezier, B-Spline(NURBS) Ex: 4Å~4,16Å~16,64Å~64 sub-division Reduce program /data Reduce memory footprint & bus traffic

PSP Graphics Core 2

‘Rendaring Engine’+‘Surface Engine’ 256bit Bus, 1-166 MHz @1.2V VRAM: 2MB(eDRAM) Bus Bandwidth: 5.3GB/sec Pixel Fill Rate: 664 M pixels/sec Max 33 M polygon /sec(T&L) 24bit Full Color: RGBA

PSP Sound Core

Reconfigurable DSPs 128 bits bus 166 MHz @ 1.2V 5 Giga operation/sec 3D Sound, Multi Channel Synthesizer, Effecter

AVC Decoder

AVC(H.264) Decoder Main Profile Baseline Profile @Level1,Level2,Level3 2Hours (High Quality)~DVD Mobie 4Hours (Standard Quality)~CS Digital Input/Output USB 2.0 Memory Stick Extension Port (Reserved) Stereo Head phone Out Digital Keypad Triangle, Circle, X, Square, L1, R1, Start, Select One analog joystick

Communication

Wireless LAN(802.11) [Hotspots, Home Server, etc.] IrDA [PSP, Mobile Phone, etc.] USB 2.0 [PSP, PS2, PC, etc.]

System Features

Vector Floating Engines Reconfigurable DSP Engine(VME) Advanced 3D Graphics Engine AVC(MPEG4) Decoder AES Crypto System 1.8GB UMD 3D-CG Game 7.1ch Audio, 3D Sound ATRAC3 plus, AAC, MP3 for Music AVC/@MP for Picture/Movie 16:9 Widescreen TFT LCD Embedded Wireless LAN (802.11) Li-ion Battery Extension for GPS, Digital Tuner, etc.

Programming

Similar to the Original Playstation PSP Libraries Middleware Sample Code Simple Programmable Field Media Engine is not user programmable VME/AVC are not user programmable

<------------------------------------------------------------------------------> UMD Specifications -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware Features

Large Capacity(3x to CD-ROM) Media for Game/Music/Movie/Publishing Lower Manufacturing Cost Minimize Inventory Risk Repoat Ordering System Parental Lock System Regional Code System Copy Protection 60mmf Laser Diode: 660nm Dual Layer: 1.8GB Transfer Rate: 11Mbps Shock Proof Secure ROM by AES Unique Disc ID

<------------------------------------------------------------------------------> E3 PSP Specs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Product Name: PlayStation®Portable (PSP) Color: Black Dimensions: Approx. 170 mm (L) x 74 mm (W) x 23 mm (D) Weight: Approx. 260 g (including battery) CPU: PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1~333MHz) Main Memory: 32MB Embedded DRAM: 4MB Display: 4.3 inch, 16:9 widescreen TFT LCD 480 x 272 pixel (16.77 million colors) Max. 200 cd/m2 (with brightness control) Speakers: Built-in stereo speakers Main Input/Output: IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi) USB 2.0 (Target) Memory Stick™ PRO Duo IrDA IR Remote (SIRCS) Disc Drive: UMD Drive (Playback only) Profile: PSP Game UMD Audio UMD Video Main Connectors: DC OUT 5V Terminals for charging built-in battery Headphone/Microphone/Control connector Keys/Switches: Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left) Analog pad Enter keys (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square) Left, Right keys START, SELECT, HOME POWER On/Hold/Off switch Brightness control, Sound Mode, Volume +/- Wireless LAN On/Off switch UMD Eject Power: Built-in lithium-ion battery, AC adaptor Access Control: Region Code, Parental Control Accessories: Stand Headphone with remote commander Headphone with remote commander and microphone External battery pack Case Strap E3 Prototype Exhibition: USB Camera for PSP USB GPS for PSP USB Keyboard for PSP

<------------------------------------------------------------------------------> E3 UMD Specs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dimensions: Weight: Approx. 10g Disc Diameter: 60 mm Maximum Capacity: 1.8GB (Single-sided, dual layer) Laser wavelength: 660nm (Red laser) Encryption: AES 128bit Profile: PSP Game (full function) UMD Audio (codec ATRAC3plus™, PCM, (MPEG4 AVC)) UMD Video (codec MPEG4 AVC, ATRAC3plus™, Caption PNG) <------------------------------------------------------------------------------> PSP Accessories -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stand: to hold your PSP nicely on your kitchen table or on the airplain's seat table so that you can enjoy your music videos and movies like Spider-man 2 .

Infra-Red or IR remote control: control your movies and music on the PSP with ease and comfort.

Headphones: no need for a PSP SP.

Battery Pack: initially it will be a replacement for PSP's battery, but it might expand to a larger than usual battery for longer system battery life.

Case: you do not want your beautiful PSP screen to be scratched, do you ?

Strap: to hold your PSP to your wrist, to avoid it to hit the ground.

USB Camera: think about a PSP themed EyeToy. It should be even more capable as it can use PSP's new USB 2.0 interface which peaks at over 400 Mbps over USB 1.1's 12 Mbps.

GPS Add-on: connecting to the Memory Stick or the USB interface ( conflicting reports ) this accessory brings full GPS functionality to the PSP. Global Positioning System is based on a series of geo-orbiting satellites that are able to identify the position of the GPS based client Hardware: altitude, longitude, latitude to a minimum margin of error of about plus or minus 11-14 meters. This enables position based gaming, city maps, driving maps.

Key-pad: probably a USB based mini-keyboard. PSP, with the help of WiFi 802.11b capabilities, can go online and can connect to other PSP units and with a portable mini-keypad you will be able to chat with your friends back and forth in games ( we expect MMORPGs will hit PSP ) as well in dedicated chat rooms or by e-mails or SMS messages.

GPRS Add-on: change your PSP in a fully capable cell-phone to keep you in contact with friends and family and go online with PSP even without a close by Wireless Access-Point. <------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

Alot of information, I know. But just so you get the whole picture of the PSP.

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I found out a little more information on the processing power of the PSP. Apparently, the term for the whole smooth roundish graphics making, is known as "hardware tesselation". This process turns plain blocky polygons into smooth, roundish, and polished polygons. This "hardware tesselation" is useful because it requires little graphics processing power, thus allowing it to come to almost match the PS2.

That's all for now. I'll scan in the article about "hardware tesselation" later. It has a before and after example. It makes a huge difference.

This is the same compilation that I have put on many forums that craved knowledge of the PSP.




Myoushu

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#2 14 years ago

Okay. I have some photos of the PSP. Apparently, they have more than just plain color models. They have special models that are based on video games.

I don't know what game this PSP was modeled after: http://www.pspinsider.com/screens/album03/aau.jpg

This PSP was modeled after the Ratchet & Clank video game: http://www.pspinsider.com/screens/album03/aav.jpg

This one is modeled after the game, Gran Turismo 4: http://www.pspinsider.com/screens/album03/aat.sized.jpg

Did I mention that there are UMD movie discs. Such as this one: http://www.pspinsider.com/screens/album03/aao.jpg




Mihail VIP Member

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#3 14 years ago

pictures are broken, anyway PSP




Batman6734

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#4 14 years ago

yeah pics dont work , but definitely the PSP over the DS, i personally think the DS looks pretty stupid, but the PSP is just SEXY, mmmmmmm, and the PSP will have PS2 graphics where as the DS wil have graphics in between N64 and Gamecube, and the PSP's screen is beautiful, so id have to go with PSP




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#5 14 years ago

PSP image gallery. it re-directed me to the main page from there i went to the gallery. simple.




Octovon

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#6 14 years ago

PSP looks amazing, but I don't think I'll get one. I heard rumours about Sony might can the PSP, even though its this late in r/d. I'll still get a PS3 before I ever get a PSP. Whats this DS you speak of?




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#7 14 years ago

nintendo's new portable is the DS, it has two screens, one is a touch screen, http://www.nintendo.com/e3_2004/ds/index.jsp




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#8 14 years ago

i want a psp. portable cd gaming for the masses i need the gt4 psp




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#9 14 years ago

The DS looks like an oversized Gameboy, the PSP pwns it.




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#10 14 years ago

psp... just cause I've grown to hate nintendo's marketing strategy. *moves to console discussion*