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Retherferd

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#1 10 years ago

I have been needing to make this thread after getting very upset with quite a few shooters.

I want to know what you like, It's simple really, Realistic would be classified as a FPS that would really allow you to be more like Far Cry or others that let you sprint barely any distance, take about 4 or 3 shots before ultimately dieing, take several hours to complete an objective because of real-world like puzzles and problems you would encounter and other insanely stupid things that apply (IMO).

A unrealistic shooter would be some kind of game where you can sprint very far and shoot incredibly accurately while running or even jumping and rolling in the air, etc, take several direct hits and keep on killing, be able to use no strategy and run into a base head on and shoot the hell out of everything in sight.

I have to go with unrealistic, reasons;

I hate games like F.E.A.R., FarCry, Crysis, Splinter Cell, CS:S, etc Why some may ask? Simple, the fact that I don't enjoy taking about 4 or 5 shots and losing the game. I also don't enjoy me running through the grass on an island and having everyone say "Holy crap what was that?" and then being able to find me somehow and shoot me in the head, Crysis isn't as bad, but still annoying. In FarCry I can get past most levels if I am insanely quite and only shoot certain people, which IMO SUCKS!!! I hate that kind of gameplay. In F.E.A.R. The constant rumble of the screen from me walking is quite annoying. I know it's suppose to be all realistic because no one walks and can control their gun in a straight line of sight like that.

I think that it still sucks, now for CS:S I think that game is utter crap and I don't like to play online, half the time I take about 3 shots and I'm dead before I know what hit me. They try to make these game more realistic, but lemme tell you guys why games like Halo, Team Fortress 2, HL series and others are starting to gain more popularity.

Why is it that I like unrealistic shooters instead? Let me just say that games like Team Fortress are so fun because I can't take them seriously thus I don't get as upset on multiplayer because I actually get kills too! TF2 will soon rival stupid CS and people will start to enjoy it a lot more. In TF2 I get killed but often times I kills others, I can take several shots depending on what class I am, which is fun because I love staying in the game. HL2 is awesome because I can run strait into a combine base and shoot everyone up and still live to tell about it, in COD4 I get shot from guys I didn't even see and am completely dead only to be met with re spawning and dieing again. I just think old school ps2 and n64 games that where everything but realistic where the best FPS ever IMO. Jame Bond: Golden Eye is rated very high and yet it's such a silly game that lets you carry several weapons and have a lot fun, in Halo you get shields which is fun because if you're tactical enough you can actually stay alive. Just my little input, who agrees or disagrees?




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#2 10 years ago
I hate games like F.E.A.R., FarCry, Crysis, Splinter Cell, CS:S, etc

I'm pretty much the opposite. Those are some of my favorite games, along with games like CoD4, Rainbox Six, Doom 3, and Bioshock. I like games like those because they actually require a little bit of skill and actual thinking to beat, not just running around and shooting in circles. I like both though, it just depends on what i'm in the mood for.




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#3 10 years ago
Apollo75;4355521I'm pretty much the opposite. Those are some of my favorite games, along with games like CoD4, Rainbox Six, Doom 3, and Bioshock. I like games like those because they actually require a little bit of skill and actual thinking to beat, not just running around and shooting in circles. I like both though, it just depends on what i'm in the mood for.

Well I'm all up for skill, I like being tactical sometimes, but some games are just insanely hard to beat for me at least.




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#4 10 years ago

Go play Serious Sam o.O




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#5 10 years ago
Retherferd;4355538Well I'm all up for skill, I like being tactical sometimes, but some games are just insanely hard to beat for me at least.

It is because your mind is not properly trained in the art of tactical combat. You have grown too accustomed to the ways of unrealistic shooters. Your mind defaults to those strategies, which do not work in realistic shooters. While your thinking of a better strategy, your loosing the game.

Another thing. Framerates are of the greatest import. The lower the frame rates, the harder the game will be.

I thought Counter-Strike was hard, until I upgraded my computer.




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#6 10 years ago

IMO, realistic games take skill to play. In realistic shooters, you have to make decisions before you move, and you have to work as a team. If you are playing a game that takes 500 shots to the body to die, why not just run out alone and kill everyone you can before dying? Those game get boring very fast because people just don't work as a team. I used to play SOCOM III for the PS2 and many people on their used teamwork to complete objectives. It actually took skill, and good communication to win most games like convoy, extraction, and demolition.




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#7 10 years ago

Retherferd, I think you would have liked CS:S. It's only good cause it used half life 2's physics and by firepower and health terms, theres no where in hell could it have been realistic. You can practically survive a dozen bullets to your chests and live with 10 HP

CS is a no-no for me :) But I think CoD4 had a realistic feel to it... imagine the bullets shocked(trauma-wise) you more than hit you and you get a instant shock or something, heavy breathing which makes you more vulnerable cause your distracted and scared. Then you die much faster that way because people can just pop up and literally hurt you with bullets.

P.S. who doesn't hate enemy AIs with intense sniper training outfitted with Xenomorphic heat/motion integrated telescopic X-ray vision with the minimal view of 100 miles. and if they kill you with a pistol from that range, its time to throw the mouse on the floor, login to filefront and rant about the BS moments and how it ain't a realistic game.




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#8 10 years ago
Monster_user;4355824It is because your mind is not properly trained in the art of tactical combat. You have grown too accustomed to the ways of unrealistic shooters. Your mind defaults to those strategies, which do not work in realistic shooters. While your thinking of a better strategy, your loosing the game.

:nodding: I agree. I played F.E.A.R. and that game really forces you to think and plan your moves. Rushing at the group of enemies even with strongest weapon in your hands will get you killed for sure. But , that`s what I like in F.E.A.R.. Add incredible enemy AI and amazing (scary) atmosphere to that and you have a great game.




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#9 10 years ago

I must say, I dislike it when in order to make a game "realistic" rather than trying to make things genuinely realistic (using shadows, timing so you can run between the guards by watching their patrols, and of course making AI improvements) they just make the AI capable of seeing anything in a 15 mile radius, extremely paranoid (i.e they start shooting the moment they see a blade of grass out of place) and extremely accurate with firearms.




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#10 10 years ago
Squire James;4355920I must say, I dislike it when in order to make a game "realistic" rather than trying to make things genuinely realistic (using shadows, timing so you can run between the guards by watching their patrols, and of course making AI improvements) they just make the AI capable of seeing anything in a 15 mile radius, extremely paranoid (i.e they start shooting the moment they see a blade of grass out of place) and extremely accurate with firearms.

That's the point no one was seeing, thank you for expressing that opinion, I basically said the same thing in regards to FarCry, it's like either spend 8hours in the prone position to try to get somewhere or walk to your target and get guys that are like really far away come up from behind and say "Did you hear that" and shoot me in the head within seconds.