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#1 8 years ago

GabuEx's Blog: The moon is disappointing when we expect the stars I think this article presents something to us gamers as to a problem with us rather than the developers (certain cases such as ridiculous draconian DRM not included). This is probably debatable, but that is why I brought it to your attention in the first place. One thing to note in particular is the fact of how the blogger was satisfied with his purchases when he had heard/thought less about a game than when he had known a lot. Of course I still think he would have read a review or 2 to avoid buying something that's a half assed, buggy as hell, incomplete piece of shit.




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Didn't read the article, don't really care to get neck deep into DRM talk. I will say however that I actually preferred Ubi's "Always On" DRM to what they'e planning for their next release. They're going with Steam now. Personally I don't like having the option of buying a hard disk taken away from me.




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#3 8 years ago
>Omen<;5403103Didn't read the article, don't really care to get neck deep into DRM talk. I will say however that I actually preferred Ubi's "Always On" DRM to what they'e planning for their next release. They're going with Steam now. Personally I don't like having the option of buying a hard disk taken away from me.

Just because a game is Steam exclusive doesn't mean there's no retail disks. Just look at CoD:MW2, Killing Floor, Dawn of War II, and any Valve game ever made.




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#4 8 years ago
Zamamee;5403221Just because a game is Steam exclusive doesn't mean there's no retail disks. Just look at CoD:MW2, Killing Floor, Dawn of War II, and any Valve game ever made.

Yeah, except what I read indicated they were selling it via Steam for the sole purpose of security. So how does it make sense to do that AND sell retail discs? Seems to me the discs would have to have some sort of DRM, then they're back to square 1.

I have not seen any indication they'll be offering both discs and Steam versions. Would make sense to offer a Steam version just to those whining about the DRM though, as long as they offer a disc version too. Otherwise I'll not be buying anymore Ubi games.




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#5 8 years ago
Yeah, except what I read indicated they were selling it via Steam for the sole purpose of security. So how does it make sense to do that AND sell retail discs? Seems to me the discs would have to have some sort of DRM, then they're back to square 1.

Its still the same version. You buy the disk, but have to install and run it through Steam. Just like FEAR 2 and Metro 2033.

I'm actually glad they are doing that. Steam is a much better option than any other kind of DRM the companies are making (Ubi especially) at this point IMO.




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#6 8 years ago

You guys really don't have a lot of time on your hands, do you??? The subject matter I am presenting to you in the form of that article has very little (if at all) to do with DRM. I just mentioned the DRM thing because most gamers don't like it and as such there wouldn't be much of a "pro-DRM" vote. Besides that's not what I want to discuss. You really should read the article. In case you're too lazy to read or don't have the time, in short, it talks about how we expect too much, which is why nearly every other game seems like a piece of crap, even if it may be okay-good. Unless it covers practically everything a gamer could want, which could be sometimes impractical or a bit stupid to ask for. I've thought the same thing quite often, which is why I brought it to your attention.




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#7 8 years ago

I read the article. Don't really agree with it. He sounds like he is just basically complaining that some people are disappointed when a game does not deliver what it was promised too, which is understandable. I don't people should lower their expectations though, as it keep game developers constantly trying to improve and bring new things to games. If we all just basically said "Oh well" like his post seems to suggest nothing would ever improve at all. I personally don't care what some game review site says about a game i like, seeing a low score posted on some website is not going to make me enjoy the game less. I tend to not go by review sites so much, but by opinions on forums and from people actually playing the game for fun. The only time i look at review site scores is when i hear about a game that i know absolutely nothing about. Besides, that's what demos are for, they give you a taste of the game to see if you think you will like it or not before you possibly waste your money on it if you don't.

I do agree with his point that over hyping a game can kill it for some who buy into all the hype and are let down with it when it turned out to be less though.




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#8 8 years ago

He actually did mention in the article that you shouldn't let go of expectations. That line about "Great inventions wouldn't have come about if people didn't have higher expectations". I think that points it out.

I think what he means is that our expectations should be reasonable and we shouldn't expect things like AI that perfectly mimics human behaviour or such.

I do disagree with him on the fact that when developers make claims they can't/don't backup, it's not okay, even if the game is. They made a promise and they broke it. Nobody likes that (even if it happens a lot and people do it quite often).