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#1 10 years ago

Hey, very simply READ YOUR USER AGREEMENT..... AA (the US Government) reserves the right to search all files saved in your hard drive upon acceptance of the license agreement. They say they only do this to find cheaters. But.......... I for one, wont give permission for my MOM to look through my hard drivem more less the US army. Anyhow, just a warning for those who want it. I wont be playing.




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#2 10 years ago

OMG a conspiracy theorist ...

Got something to hide ? All that porn you are downloading. There is a reason why you won't let your mom nor the "government" into your files. You are using p2p programs to download porn/music/movies and all of those reasons will get you in trouble.

On a serious note. Please post the WHOLE EULA and highlight the parts you are reading so others can see it. It helps support your post.




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#3 10 years ago

First off, this isnt a debate (I dont need to support my evidence) If you care at all, just load the game and read the whole license agreement...... If you dont care or dont believe me.... Your choice. Second, can I come over and look through your hard drive??? If you dont have anything to hide, why worry? Do you care if the cops show up to search your house and go through your closets and drawers JUST TO SEE? If you dont have anything to hide, dont worry. This is about privacy. Plain and simple. If you dont care, thats your prerogative. BTW, its that knid of thinking that a controlled and fascist society loves from its citizens.




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#4 10 years ago

First, if you don't want to look like a fool, you should provide evidence. Simply stating that it is in the EULA does no good. Which one? I went through the AA EULA and found no trace. You could have at least mentioned it was the PB EULA.

Punkbuster EULA Licensee further acknowledges and accepts that PunkBuster software may be considered invasive. Licensee understands that PunkBuster software inspects and reports information about the computer on which it is installed to other connected computers and Licensee agrees to allow PunkBuster software to inspect and report such information about the computer on which Licensee installs PunkBuster software. Licensee understands and agrees that the information that may be inspected and reported by PunkBuster software includes, but is not limited to, devices and any files residing on the hard-drive and in the memory of the computer on which PunkBuster software is installed.

I don't see the big deal. For years people have had to agree to this agreement for it to be in effect. By agreeing you agree that they have the right to scan the contents of your computer. That is not an invasion of privacy.

Second, the government is not given this right, PunkBuster is. They are two entirely different entities.

If you don't it, don't agree to the legal document. It's as simple as that.




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#5 10 years ago

Okay, first I do not look like a fool as that is a ELUA which is required to play that game. Second, being new to online gaming I find that extremely scary that in order to enjoy a game you have to void your right to privacy.... If this is standard practice, I will not be engaging in any game that makes me agree to use "invasive" (their word, not mine) software. Third, I would have provided that exact quote but was unable to cut and paste from my installation screen. Now, since you seem to be so well versed. What IS Punkbuster, why do I need it to play AA if its not part of AA and you also forgot to include the part that says " Licensee agrees that any harm or lack of privacy resulting from the instalation and use of Punkbuster Software is not as valuable to the licensee as the ability to play the game." (that is a paraphrase but it basically means if you agree to play you void your right to privacy, right? I am no lawyer but that seems pretty clear.




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#6 10 years ago
Bluegrazz;4209381Okay, first I do not look like a fool as that is a ELUA which is required to play that game. Second, being new to online gaming I find that extremely scary that in order to enjoy a game you have to void your right to privacy.... If this is standard practice, I will not be engaging in any game that makes me agree to use "invasive" (their word, not mine) software. Third, I would have provided that exact quote but was unable to cut and paste from my installation screen. Now, since you seem to be so well versed. What IS Punkbuster, why do I need it to play AA if its not part of AA and you also forgot to include the part that says " Licensee agrees that any harm or lack of privacy resulting from the instalation and use of Punkbuster Software is not as valuable to the licensee as the ability to play the game." (that is a paraphrase but it basically means if you agree to play you void your right to privacy, right? I am no lawyer but that seems pretty clear.
  • First off: You do look like a fool now. Before doing ANY public forum posting , you should have done some research.
  • Second: As this is a PUBLIC forums, a debate is exactly what you will get.
  • Thirdly: Punkbuster is a software developed by EVENBALANCE.COM. Evenbalance is hired by the game companies to develop ANTI-CHEAT software unique to each games files. For PUNKBUSTER to function, it goes through your pc's files looking for files specific to each games HACK files. Meaning, it looks for CHEATS. That is the reason why you agree to it. If you do not want punkbuster looking at your files, you simple DELETE the PB folder located in your games folder and NOT join PUNKBUSTER enabled servers for multiplayer.

Punkbuster bans you off of ALL punkbuster related/enabled servers dealing with the specific game you are playing.

For this information and more: READ THE EULA thoroughly and visit PunkBuster Online Countermeasures.

So you agree to the EULA so that they can keep you safe from hackers and cheaters. You have a choice.

Welcome to the Firs Person Shooter era and to the Multiplaying community. You have SOOOO much to read, and many more questions to ask.

If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask... But be sure You yourself have done some reading on it before you come in thinking you have found something that no one else has. This usually leads to looking like a fool.




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#7 10 years ago

I appreciate your time (and no, I do not feel foolish as I am sure many, many gamers are not aware of this as most folks dont really read those agreements...I do, and have seen nothing like that ever. I also, as stated, have not played any online games.) I wasn't put this post up to debate, rather to inform those who were unaware and care... If I am wrong, correct me (as you have) and its all good. I AM going to research this, because I want to play the game and if they are trying to stop cheaters that is a commendable piece of software, I just saw the words INVASIVE and read all that and said "hell no."......I just came here to point out what I have found. I am sure many of you would ask "dumb" questions or make "foolish" statements if you started training in my field or started off with one of my hobby's or whatever.....Its nothing personal. I was only trying to show people something I didnt think they knew about. Anyhow, I appreciate it and I will be looking into it. Thanxs




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#8 10 years ago
Bluegrazz;4209434I appreciate your time (and no, I do not feel foolish as I am sure many, many gamers are not aware of this as most folks dont really read those agreements...I do, and have seen nothing like that ever. I also, as stated, have not played any online games.) I wasn't put this post up to debate, rather to inform those who were unaware and care... If I am wrong, correct me (as you have) and its all good. I AM going to research this, because I want to play the game and if they are trying to stop cheaters that is a commendable piece of software, I just saw the words INVASIVE and read all that and said "hell no."......I just came here to point out what I have found. I am sure many of you would ask "dumb" questions or make "foolish" statements if you started training in my field or started off with one of my hobby's or whatever.....Its nothing personal. I was only trying to show people something I didnt think they knew about. Anyhow, I appreciate it and I will be looking into it. Thanxs

No worries man ... That is what we are here for. To answer the questions of the galaticly stupid (just kidding).

Take it from us: For you to play online (and without the majority of hacks and cheats) you will have to accept the agreement of PB's Eula. Don't download suspicious files or hacks and you will be fine.

I wasn't kidding when i said, welcome to online gaming. And if you have any questions, no matter how stupid you may think they are, ask them. Just don't get pissy when you are asked to post specifics. Had you posted that part of the EULA i would have already told you what PUNKBUSTER is.