15 Points Showing Nick Berg Video Fake! 17 replies

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azzkiker

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#1 14 years ago

15 Points Showing Nick Berg Video Fake:

1) Extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national security" issues for witholding additional materials.

3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue (compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change).

6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

7) Audio clearly dubbed in.

8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what page he's on?

9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it.

12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.

14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly dubbed in.

15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by family.

It is believed that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from public for reasons of national security. Now "patriots" everywhere will laud the virtues of U.S. torture of "enemies". Sensitivity level of public gets heightened in terms of what's acceptable treatment of prisoners. Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing. Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in torture. Serves Berg's father right for opposing Bush and the war of aggression against Iraq.




Ensign Riles VIP Member

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#2 14 years ago

It was edited for Arab networds to show, like Al Jazeera. As for him being held in U.S. custody, that incident was supposedly later resolved and he was released.

Anyways, I would like you to explain some of the other beheadings. They followed closely to that one. Oh well, I will try and remain objective. I guess I would have to watch it again. Whatever happened it is still very sad.




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#3 14 years ago

azzkiker15 Points Showing Nick Berg Video Fake:

1) Extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue (compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change).

9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

I smell a conspiracy!




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#4 14 years ago

I don't. I smell just another conspiracy theorist that has too much time on their hands. The poor guy is dead, either way... let him and his family be at peace.


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#5 14 years ago

Gotta admit about the blood thing, no way was his heart pumping if that is what I saw.




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#6 14 years ago

I think it could be a conspiracy, but i don't really care either way, the poor guys is dead.




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#7 14 years ago

deja vu... this was already hashed out in the pub.




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#8 14 years ago

Yea, this has conspiracy written all over it.




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#9 14 years ago

I got no oponin on this cause i gave seen the video. From what you said its seems like a conspiracy but not with the US. And pink is right that was posted in the pub a while ago. here it is:D




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#10 14 years ago

jesus fuckin christ you anti-american fags will never shut up will you? the guy is dead why cant do anything about it okay now let this subject for ever die




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