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Authuran

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#21 8 years ago

Wow, DDOS.

Truly badass.

Way to show them.




Nemmerle Forum Mod

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#22 8 years ago

Freyr;5401672No, but on the other hand the freetards want it to be legal not to pay for any music, movies, TV shows etc.

While I don't like the RIAA/MPAA's stance, I like the pirates stance less because if it was allowed it would quite literally destroy anybody creating anything that could be stored in a data format. Art, novels, music, movies etc would be reduced to people who could afford to not be paid in the first place.

In all honesty a lot of the stories I read online from people who don't get paid are one fuck of a lot better than the stuff you get in a bookshop; similarly with music and art. When you're not investing tens of thousands of pounds in a publishing run you can afford to take risks on making decent characters and running them through relatively novel situations. There's actual humour in the stories, and characters that aren't emo-bitches.

Movies are a bit more difficult due to the high cost of filming the things. However, with fan ventures increasing in quality, I'm prepared to venture that as processing power comes down in price and tools become more accessible the relevance of the movie industry to creative enterprise in that regard will diminish as well.

I don't buy any books other than for university anymore simply because the characters are so trite by comparison. I haven't purchased music in - well I can count the number of CDs I've purchased in my life on one hand. We don't need to play by the rules of the industry. If it dies, so be it.




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#23 8 years ago

Nemmerle;5401879In all honesty a lot of the stories I read online from people who don't get paid are one fuck of a lot better than the stuff you get in a bookshop; similarly with music and art. When you're not investing tens of thousands of pounds in a publishing run you can afford to take risks on making decent characters and running them through relatively novel situations. There's actual humour in the stories, and characters that aren't emo-bitches.

Movies are a bit more difficult due to the high cost of filming the things. However, with fan ventures increasing in quality, I'm prepared to venture that as processing power comes down in price and tools become more accessible the relevance of the movie industry to creative enterprise in that regard will diminish as well.

I don't buy any books other than for university anymore simply because the characters are so trite by comparison. I haven't purchased music in - well I can count the number of CDs I've purchased in my life on one hand. We don't need to play by the rules of the industry. If it dies, so be it.

Oh god you're talking about pirating things and saying that you've done it before in a beat around the bush way; we should totally ban you for doing illegal things and discussing it.




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#24 8 years ago

No, I'm pretty much just expressing my hate for the insular media cabals that kill creativity and then prattle about protecting the artists.




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#25 8 years ago
Nemmerle;5401879In all honesty a lot of the stories I read online from people who don't get paid are one fuck of a lot better than the stuff you get in a bookshop; similarly with music and art. When you're not investing tens of thousands of pounds in a publishing run you can afford to take risks on making decent characters and running them through relatively novel situations. There's actual humour in the stories, and characters that aren't emo-bitches.

From my experience, amateur authors have a tendency to use far too many Mary Sues. And they have no motivation to put effort into their work, as they're not in any way rewarded by finishing a polished and professional looking story. They're bland, boring, and most of the stories full of cliches that everyone know all too well. In fact, when it comes to novels, you don't earn money by copying something old. The entire book industry relies on word of mouth, and if your story isn't unique, no one is going to care about it.




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#26 8 years ago

Not all media companies do that though. Baen books has to be a perfect example.

Baen sell ebooks as well as paperbacks, and one of their favourite advertising methods is posting CD's full of ebooks out to people in mass mailshots as advertising, and they allow them to be posted online. This is the orientation page of one of the CD's which contains 28 completely unencrypted ebooks in a variety of formats such as word, html and the formats for palm pilots etc. You can legally read the first dozen in the honorverse series from that site, after which you'll need to buy the remaining books from Baen and there are plenty of other great books on that disc.

Baen typically persuade the authors to offer the first book or couple of books free of charge as the best way of advertising, and then they just sell you the rest of the series. But, the freetards want theft to be legal, so they'd put Baen out of business along with everybody else.

It's not the business practices freetards don't like, that's just an excuse or else they would flock to the legal services available. They simply don't like the concept of having to pay for anything.




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#27 8 years ago
Serio;5401946From my experience, amateur authors have a tendency to use far too many Mary Sues. And they have no motivation to put effort into their work, as they're not in any way rewarded by finishing a polished and professional looking story. They're bland, boring, and most of the stories full of cliches that everyone know all too well. In fact, when it comes to novels, you don't earn money by copying something old. The entire book industry relies on word of mouth, and if your story isn't unique, no one is going to care about it.

Twilight, Harry Potter, Eragon. Or perhaps sir would like yet another predictable murder mystery? Or a tale about the journey from rags to riches with a new set of [insert character name here] strings? Trite crap but they sell.

I don't find authors in the book industry to be very original. In all honesty, I don't even think most people want something original. Look at video games: Mafia 2, Mass effect 2, Call of Duty whatever number we're up to now, Medal of honor #whatever, Assassin's Creed 2, Civilisation V, Dead Rising 2, Splinter Cell #whatever. People want their existing aesthetics pandered to. The experience of going through a bookshop is, for me at least, roughly the same as looking at that list; though obviously without the improvements in graphics and gameplay.

The vast majority of authors wherever you go are crap. The book industry has a higher average level of crap; which I maintain is still for the most part bad enough not to be worth the bother; but it has fewer outliers - fewer brilliant stars and fewer absolute black-holes. For me sifting through the mass of crap on the internet is far more cost - and time - effective than sifting through the crap in a bookstore. On the internet I can go through fifteen or twenty stories in short order - in a bookstore those fifteen or twenty stories come at ten pounds a pop.