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Admiral Donutz Advanced Member

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#21 11 years ago
Nemmerle;5300868... That doesn't seem right. If they go unreported how do you know about them?

Surveys and questionarries. It remains to be seen how reliable they are...




Nemmerle Advanced Member

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#22 11 years ago

Ah, questionnaires. About as much use as tits on a bull for getting honest results here then.




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#23 11 years ago
Nemmerle;5300868... That doesn't seem right. If they go unreported how do you know about them?

Because "reported" generally means told to proper authorities. Or told to the authorities within a specific window of time. Like all of these people coming out now, saying they were molested by priests. They didnt report it at the time.

Ive known a few who were raped (or so I was told) and they never reported it.




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#24 11 years ago

NiteStryker;5301370Because "reported" generally means told to proper authorities. Or told to the authorities within a specific window of time. Like all of these people coming out now, saying they were molested by priests. They didnt report it at the time.

Ive known a few who were raped (or so I was told) and they never reported it.

And so you'd logically assume that unreported would be something told to an improper authority or after that time had passed....

If people were being honest that would be a valid approach, but that's not how these studies tend to work. Most typically unreported means exactly what it say.

You see the aftermath of physical rape is, for a lot of people, about profiting in the form of money and power from the woman's interests. The bigger the problem, the more women you can find like that, the more funding and power you get. So what you do is you generalize from what you do have access to; well aware that what you do have access to will never be an accurate portrayal of the general population.

Say only one in X number of people who come to your rape clinic want to go to the police: then you say that for every person who comes to the clinic the same proportion of people in the general population didn't.

Or if you're doing an academic study, (which will more often than not be funded by an interested party,) you send round a questionnaire or get a study group in and you ask people about a variety of acts. Have people done this to you, etc. Then you take those acts and group them under a heading, say sexual violence. And then you generalize from the abnormal group who responded (few people respond to those types of questionnaires) to the entirety of the population.

Stop and think about that for a moment. Sexual violence brings to mind images of pretty vile acts but what the hell does sexual violence mean when they say it? A bit of slap and tickle? A drunk guy who gave your tit a squeeze? Someone who smacked you against the wall and raped you? In studies it tends to mean all of the above.

That's how you generate 'unreported' data from 'reported' data. It's also how you get more funding and power. It does not mean you've found this massive group of women who didn't report their rapes to the proper authorities in time; you've just created something out of bad statistics.

While I've no doubt that, as with many crimes, it does go under reported I know enough about the politics that take place in psychology and social interest groups to apply an understanding of trickery to the issue. So I ask again: how do you know about them if they're unreported? Because while it would be nice to assume your answer is the correct one it's not the only answer – (on average it tends to be the wrong answer especially where large figures are talked about in general terms.)