Annoying me. Abuse Claims. all fake! 14 replies

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GNR Unbreakable VIP Member

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#1 14 years ago

Red Cross? wtf? Ok ok lets get a few facts right. I was in Iraq for 6 months, we done alot of lifts on Former Regime Extremists (FRE's) and Anti-Coaltion Forces (ACF). I personally myself have looked after some famous iraqis when we did stag on watching the prisoners and never ever have the red cross ever, ever been present at any time.

How the hell can they give a report, when they arnt even there. i mean i didnt even see them the whole time i was out there, and they can make a report on mis-treatment of FRE's and ACF's. ok whatever.

This is how it worked, we did the operation (lifting the FRE's and ACF's) put them into a Bedford vehicle or Snatch rovers, took them back to camp, then put them into the TQ center (where we keep prisoners after operations) During the time period of lifting them, taking them to there required camps, at no time did any red cross turn up and spend time with soldiers or prisoners.

Now approx. 12 hours more or less they are taken to another base where they (FRE's and ACF's) will stay for there hearing then get there sentence and stay there until they do there time. There arnt even any red cross at this so-called location they give in there report. I know, ive been there! Spent many hours there! many hours!

Ive personally never seen anyone mistreatment a prisoner, at anytime. These prisoners have accidents when in our custody, they fall over sometimes as they are blind-folded and walk into doors. I had to take a FRL to the pisser one time and he fell to the ground, i helped him back up but got a nice bollocking off my NCO for not doing my job.

Ive also been in the TQ center where that FRE was killed from our soldiers, not possible to kill someone with so many officers around, only if the officers did it themselfs.

The report, the pictures, all of it is a fake! Believe it.




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#2 14 years ago

There might not have been any British side abuse, I believe we Americans were responsible for the abuse. Which is nothing that hasn't ever happened in any other war. It's you enemy, why would you be nice to them. They are shooting at you trying to kill you, as soon as I got them, they'd be on the edge of dying. Of course most Iraqis people have no problems killing themselves as well as other defenseless people who might be in the area with suicide bombs and such. That tells you the kind of people they are dealing with. They deserve every bit of smack down they get.




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#3 14 years ago

I know its just the media blowing things way out of proportion and not knowing all the facts and trying to paint an anti-US, Brit picture anyway. I doubt anyway the Iraqis do good things to US, Brit prisoners anyway.




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#4 14 years ago

David,

What do u think to all these claims of iraqis being abused by american soldiers cos i guess u worked pretty close to the americans out there so you would have heard the rumours..




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#5 14 years ago

You can only speak for yourself and what you know right? Well theres a pretty good god damn amount you can't speak for. So theres a good chance there was alot of abuse of iraqis right under your nose. Not saying you had anything to do with it or aprove of it. But the fact is you can't really know.




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#6 14 years ago

*completely agrees with post above* :agreed:




GNR Unbreakable VIP Member

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#7 14 years ago
MihailYou can only speak for yourself and what you know right? Well theres a pretty good god damn amount you can't speak for. So theres a good chance there was alot of abuse of iraqis right under your nose. Not saying you had anything to do with it or aprove of it. But the fact is you can't really know.

Until you do what i do, you cant tell me that. I know exacly what was going on, the unsual circumstances and actions taken in iraq and the things that go on i can say very confidently that there are no abusing of iraqis at all.

Its a very different situation, very unique that cant be put somewhere else, its very hard to imagine the surroundings and how we worked out there, with the people also. I couldnt imagine it before i went out there, nothing prepared me for what it was going to be like, so any civilian trying to imagine what anything was like out there is very difficult.

6 months is a long time, i saw nothing like they say going on at all.




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#8 14 years ago

Infact I have done what you done, but thanks for telling me what I have done. And as I said you can really only speak for yourself. And were you stationed at these holding cells of the iraqis?




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#9 14 years ago

British Prime Minister Tony Blair has issued a qualified apology to Iraqi prisoners who may have been mistreated by British forces, declaring that such actions were "absolutely and totally unacceptable".

"We apologise deeply to anyone who has been mistreated by any of our soldiers," Blair said.

"That is absolutely and totally unacceptable. Those who are responsible for this - if they behaved in this appalling way - they will be punished according to the Army discipline and rules."

if this is true, and based on the photographic evidence which caused this 'apology' it is, then a few individuals haved fucked up this Iraq situation more than we can possibly understand. i am not claiming that everybody was in on this, i'm sure that 99% of the men and women out in Iraq are innocent and just as incensed by these reports as i am.

there is talk of holding televised trials of the Americans accused of carrying out these acts. it may be the only way to restore what little faith the Iraqi people must have in our forces in Iraq.

GNR Unbreakablei can say very confidently that there are no abusing of iraqis at all.

i doubt you can guarantee that. i don't think Blair would have apologised live on French television unless there was very strong evidence in direct conflict with your claim.




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#10 14 years ago

Seeing as nefarious schemes of lies and theft go on in my house without my knowledge, I honest don't think it's physically possible for you to guarentee that not once did anything happen. And is there only one place holding Iraqi prisoners now? You don't know what happened in other areas -- you may be right, nothing may have happened where you were. But what about where you weren't?




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