You know the main reason Brits didn't want a cold war to become a war? We thought that are tea supply might be in danger of running out.
The threat of a nuclear attack on the UK in the 1950s caused concern over the supply of tea, top-secret documents which have now been released reveal. Government officials planning food supplies said the tea situation would be "very serious" after a nuclear war. "It would be wrong to consider that even 1oz per head per week could be ensured," they stated. The papers were released under the Freedom of Information Act by the National Archives at Kew. Heart and health The documents said a nuclear conflict would result in the loss of three-quarters of tea stocks. One paper from April 1955 said: "The advent of thermonuclear weapons... has presented us with a new and much more difficult set of food defence problems." The aim was to be "completely ready to maintain supplies of food to the people of these islands, sufficient in volume to keep them in good heart and health from the onset of a thermonuclear attack on this country". "It has become increasingly clear that the severity of the attack which the enemy could launch would produce a catastrophe in the face of which past measures would be fatally deficient," the document added. Food stockpiles For planning purposes, the Ministry of Food listed London, Birmingham, Merseyside, Manchester and Clydeside as H-bomb targets. Tyneside, Teesside, Leeds, Sheffield, Hull, Derby, Purfleet in Essex, Southampton, Portsmouth, Bristol, Plymouth, Cardiff, Coventry and Belfast were named as A-bomb targets. Subjects down for discussion were arrangements for stockpiling food, emergency feeding and equipment, and the availability of bread, milk, meat, oils and fats and tea and sugar. Methods successfully used in World War II would be "unable to maintain bread supplies under the conditions envisaged", the documents said.
[/INDENT]I can see their logic in this though.
Piet;4348961 A Mowag Eagle 5.. This babys gun is sticking out too, but the gunner can sit comfortably inside and find targets on his flat screen and control the gun with a joypad.
I'm sure all the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan would love such a weapon system for their humvee's, saves us a few ALI sniper movies.:uhm:
It strikes me as odd that they don't have it when there are billions being poured into increasingly questionable projects involving even more stealthier aircraft and (anti)missile cruisers. It seems the war in Iraq is mostly one for the ground pounders where even A10's in combination with helicopters of all sorts can take care of all the air support the grunts could want. Skewed priorities, it seems.:uhm:
Not that i don't understand why the US would want to maintain it's technological edge, but come on, give the guys in green some fuckin love already.
At least the Army ain't the Marines, they get everybody's hand-me-downs. The reason they're pouring money into stealth aircraft and missile cruisers and UAVs is because the DOD is trying to plan for the next war. Planning ahead is a good idea, it just sucks for those who are fighting this war.
Joining the service seems to run in my family. My grandfather joined years ago, he was part of the 82nd Airborne. I also have a cousin who's doing his second tour in Iraq. My younger brother is in the National Guard, and I have two other cousins in the Air Force and Marines, respectively.
I really respect what you guys are doing. I know its not the easiest job at times, but thanks for simply being willing. Thats awesome.
Tas;4349497I'm sure all the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan would love such a weapon system for their humvee's, saves us a few ALI sniper movies.:uhm: It strikes me as odd that they don't have it when there are billions being poured into increasingly questionable projects involving even more stealthier aircraft and (anti)missile cruisers. It seems the war in Iraq is mostly one for the ground pounders where even A10's in combination with helicopters of all sorts can take care of all the air support the grunts could want. Skewed priorities, it seems.:uhm: Not that i don't understand why the US would want to maintain it's technological edge, but come on, give the guys in green some fuckin love already.
Well, the danish army is getting equipped with these as we speak, to be used in Afghanistan.. They will surely teach the Talibs a lesson or two... thousand
haha about fucking time...
oh yeah.. btw.. whats the reason to have the right equipment if we dont have anyone who knows how to use them (the danish Officer educational period has been cut in half)
Well, you just said the Danish officers. Officers aren't expected to do as much of the gunning, last I checked. The enlisted should be able to handle it.
We are talking field officers here.. squad leaders ect.. it all goes under the same thing as far as I am aware off... we're not talking behind the desk - officers... well theres some but still..
and last I checked they go through the same training as other enlisted soldiers.. on a basic level of course..
Well, then, wouldn't they get their machinery training with all of the enlisted people?
I didn't make it!
Well, I myself am not in the military, until recently they wouldn't have me anyway (Type I Diabetic, but i've heard they've changed the regs these days because of claims of descrimination). However my Uncle is now a Sergeant in the RAF, officially an ATC, but he always seems to be on the ground, in some unofficial posting or whathaveyou. Hehe humourous thought; maybe my grandchildren can read about what he *really* did in Iraq (99 Years declassified isn't it?) My mother and father were also RAF, but my mother left when I was concieved (such was the rules back in the 80s it seems) and my dad left when I was 3 or 4 I think, around that age anyways. My grandfather served in Cyprus with the Royal Horse Guards in the 50s, my step-grandfather was a Lancaster Pilot, and my American Father-in-Law was a draft-dodger, when his father moved them all to Canada from Missouri until the yanks pulled out of Indochina. Myself? Merely a re-enactor. However as mentioned, I would never try and pass myself off as a serving member of the armed forces. Just plain wrong.