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#1 3 years ago

Over the next 6-8 months I will be studying for the CompTIA A+, Security+, as well as beginning the process towards my Cisco certifications beginning with the CCENT and heading towards two CCNA's (Routing and Switching, and Security)... As we are a techy forum, I'm curious to know if anyone has these certifications and what they did to study/prep for them...




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#2 3 years ago

I have none of the above, but I have several of the books. Most of them are fairly cut and dry. Just read the material and practice on machines.

You can always do classes if you want, especially for the network specific ones where they time you while connecting cables between servers and clients and seeing how fast you can repair damages.

But uh...yeah I'm not sure if I really want to go for these certs. Most jobs I see in IT require 5+ years of experience.


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Adrian Ţepeş;5748071I have none of the above, but I have several of the books. Most of them are fairly cut and dry. Just read the material and practice on machines.

You can always do classes if you want, especially for the network specific ones where they time you while connecting cables between servers and clients and seeing how fast you can repair damages.

But uh...yeah I'm not sure if I really want to go for these certs. Most jobs I see in IT require 5+ years of experience.

I'm working on the IT experience right now. A year and a half working help desk and data center operations and closing in on two in tech support.




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#4 3 years ago

Oh ok, well at least you've got that going for you.

Me personally, the job market has kinda made me feel uneasy. It's that strange syndrome of, "How am I supposed to learn to drive if you never actually let me have the keys?"

My current job is actually pretty good about teaching you the relevant tricks of the trade and how to learn as you go so you'll be more valuable in the long run.

Now when it comes to IT/Computers...I dunno, I've kinda given up on that. I used to really enjoy mucking around with code and seeing what all I could do just by editing source material and learning from mistakes. But when you look at it in an industrial setting...yeah...I think I'd rather fix cars than write 500 lines of code every night before I go out drinking :p

Still, I think what you're doing is the more enjoyable side of the coin. I've always had a fascination for what makes computers work so naturally the hardware aspect is more attractive. I'm currently trying to decide whether to go for an engineering technology or just pure science with an interest in materials and PC parts. But that's another story.

As long as you can get your foot in the door someplace, your chances are getting better at least for eventually getting to a point where you can wake up on Monday morning with a sense of purpose and enjoyment with your job.

I just kind of wish more jobs were apprenticed based. IT certainly isn't the only field where you can learn just as well if not better than someone with a bachelor's degree, but I digress. I'm sure you'll do fine. Good luck on your exams and have fun!


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#5 3 years ago

[COLOR=Blue]At one point, I had both the Security+ and the A+ certifications. The only thing I used were the University textbooks, and their included disk with practice tests. I spent a good 3-4 hours a day doing only that, for a month. Even then, I only JUST managed to pass, with the bare minimum passing score.

But there are some very important things you need to know. Sadly, I had to learn both of these from experience.

1: Your certifications don't get you anything until you have a Bachelor's. I have the AAS in Computer Science, and I had both certifications (They both have since expired.) and not even government sites will accept it. If you plan to actually get a job doing this, then you have no choice but to go all the way to Bachelor's.

2: Where are you studying, or planning to study? Come to find out, Technical Colleges don't qualify for military credit (Advanced Ranking Program). And when the Recruiter goes into his system to verify your education, Technical Colleges are not even in the military database at all. The only reason they did accept my Degree is because of the simple fact that the College I graduation from is the location where this city does the ASVAB test, so they knew it was a real College, and therefore a valid Degree. So unless you are in an actual University, best you don't even bother.

3: If you are in a Technical College, and plan to transfer to an actual University, they will not accept your earned credits. Even though you do have the AAS, you will still be expected to repeat half of that, plus change, before you can even begin working on the Bachelor's. That means you just wasted those 2 years at the Technical College, and will then waste another year, plus change, repeating half of those classes.

So the moral of the story? 1: If you want a job, you need to have a Bachelor's (MINIMUM).

2: Military only accepts Universities. So don't bother with Technical Colleges.

3: Don't bother transferring from a Technical College to a University. Just go directly to the University.

I really wish someone had told me this when I first started. It would have saved me those years, and even more in student loans. [/COLOR]


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#6 3 years ago
Adrian Ţepeş;5748087Now when it comes to IT/Computers...I dunno, I've kinda given up on that. I used to really enjoy mucking around with code and seeing what all I could do just by editing source material and learning from mistakes. But when you look at it in an industrial setting...yeah...I think I'd rather fix cars than write 500 lines of code every night before I go out drinking :p

Agreed. I'm burnt out on it all...doing it 5 days a week, for 8 hours a day, 52 weeks of the year. It's a great job, but it's gotten old fast. I'd much rather be working on cars than banging my head on a desk waiting for an analyst to call me back...




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[COLOR=Blue]I know that feeling all too well. I don't even like computers. The only reason I did that was because I thought (keyword: THOUGHT) that would be the fastest way to get a job. NO!

If I had someone to tell me all of this when I first started out, I would have gone directly for the aviation degree. Or even better yet, I would have joined the Air Force directly after High School, like I should have done in the first place. [/COLOR]


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#8 3 years ago

W00t! Air Force! <3

Anyway, that's not technically true about technical colleges (heh =p), I have a friend in the Navy who was nearly given an advanced rank but it turns out he was like 3 classes short. But as I recall they would have accepted his credits.

Then again, I've heard from countless people that the Air Force is picky about what they will and won't accept from schools. That's especially true when it comes to officer jobs. My brother had a pretty good GPA, but because it wasn't a STEM major he didn't qualify.

But Computer Science as a major always felt kind of wrong to me. I personally think it would be better suited to those people who really enjoy the abstract science of computation as opposed to someone who wants to be a code monkey. From what my professors have told me, it used to be classified under the Maths department but sometime during the 80s it got mostly classified under the Business department, as well as Information Systems and Information Security. It's just...not that kind of degree.

I think most people would do well enough with something like Software Engineering or a Minor in CS or some other certificate. Things like Computer Engineering are where it's at in a lot of respects because it's more to do with designing hardware instead of using it to design algorithms. However that's not to say it's still an end-all-be-all degree. Regardless of how you enter the computer world, if you don't constantly learn new skills you'll eventually get left in the dust. I think it's safe to say at this point I'm getting close to my own sarcophagus :p

That can of course be said of pretty much any field, but I think CS is one of those fields that has a virtual universe of required knowledge, and you need to be competent in several different galaxies to be considered worth the risk.

Not that it's that difficult to gauge, but what do I know?.. d(>_>)b


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#9 3 years ago

[COLOR=Blue]I don't know about the Navy, but I can tell you the Army recruiter told me exactly the same thing the Air Force recruiter did. In both cases, the College didn't exist in their database. They only accepted my degree because they do the ASVAB test on that campus, which proves the College does exist. [/COLOR]


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#10 3 years ago

I have no idea what any of these acronyms and initialisms mean, so I'm no help to you. But I will wish you luck though!




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