Danish Scientist says Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1400 years may have ruined gene pool 11 replies

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Solace92

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GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba - A Danish psychologist who believes Muslims are raised to be aggressive and that inbreeding has damaged their genes informed a damning expert opinion of the risk Omar Khadr poses to public safety, court heard Wednesday.

Under cross-examination by defence lawyers, Dr. Michael Welner said he talked to Nicolai Sennels before coming to the conclusion that the Canadian-born Khadr was "highly dangerous" — an opinion he gave Tuesday on the first day of Khadr's sentencing hearing.

Welner, a witness for the prosecution, said he admired Sennels for his work trying to help young Muslim inmates in Denmark and found him informative.

Sennels, who is based in Copenhagen, has written extensively on Muslims, including one article introduced into evidence Tuesday.

"If a Muslim does not react aggressively when criticized he is seen as weak, not worth trusting and he thus loses social status immediately," Sennels wrote.

In another article, Sennels, 34, attributed a host of problems within the Islamic world to intermarriage among first cousins.

"Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1,400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool."

Sennels has also stated that Muslim integration into western societies is not possible, a view Welner called "political."

The seven military officers on the jury will decide on a sentence for Khadr, who pleaded guilty on Monday to five war-crimes charges.

Although they can sentence him to life in prison, the actual sentence will be capped at eight years under a plea-bargain agreement, the details of which have not been disclosed to the jury.

Khadr would be returned to Canada after one more year in American custody.

Testifying for a second day, Welner found his credibility under attack as the defence hammered him for being selective in his depictions of Khadr.

Welner had testified on Tuesday that Khadr was only interested in the Qur'an, and had shown little interest in western literature.

However, during testy exchanges with defence lawyer Maj. Matthew Schwartz, Welner conceded Khadr had indicated little interest in the Qu'ran before being shipped to Guantanamo.

He also testified Khadr had in fact read books by South African President Nelson Mandela, U.S. President Barack Obama, and even romance writer Danielle Steele.

He qualified his view by saying Khadr's dangerousness lay in his ability to be "inspiring and be incendiary" to other radical Islamists.

Khadr, 24, who smiled and chatted with his lawyers, grew pensive as Welner testified, at times glaring at him.

Welner admitted that professional colleagues did not review his opinion to ensure a lack of bias.

It was also the first time he had assessed a radical jihadist for any risk to public safety.

After interviewing Khadr for seven hours earlier this year, Welner concluded that the detainee did not have any mental illness.

Later Wednesday, court heard three victim-impact statements.

Former special forces sergeant Layne Morris described how he was hit in the head by shrapnel during the 2002 raid on the compound where Khadr was captured.

He thought he had been shot and was "standing there dead," Morris testified, at times finding it difficult to stay composed.

"It was complete despair — I would not get to see my kids again."

Morris lost sight in one eye and he and Speer's widow later successfully sued Khadr's late father in a Utah court, winning a judgment in the tens of millions of dollars.

Two of Speer's close comrades described the special forces medic in glowing terms and his death as a "catastrophic loss," frequently pausing as they fought back tears.

The hearing continues Thursday.

Psychologist critical of Muslim 'inbreeding' informed expert's opinion on Khadr - Winnipeg Free Press




Joe Bonham

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#2 8 years ago

Very true. Cultures that encourage interbreeding between cousins suffer genetic deteriation quickly. Look at what happened to the noble classes in in European history. Men who by today's standards were mentally retarded running whole countries. Insane wars, reckless spending, famine... terrible leadership at its worst.




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#3 8 years ago
Sennels "If a Muslim does not react aggressively when criticized he is seen as weak, not worth trusting and he thus loses social status immediately," Sennels wrote.

This sentence actually nullified his whole research ... Our Prophet was patient, not an idiot yelling over other people because they didn't believe him. And we're actually supposed to follow his example: So, if someone criticizes us, we've to stay calm...

But yes, the inbred thing is true ...




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#4 8 years ago

No offense but I think most religious people would be a horrific disappointment to their prophets. So just because it's written that you're supposed to be all gentle and forgiving - well that doesn't make it so.




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#5 8 years ago

I don't take it as an offense, but sadly, it's true. Many of us, who call themselves "Muslim" have lost their dignity. Most of us started drinking, neglected the prayer and even started promiscious activities. It's really sad. But that's no reason for me to quit the religion.

It's true that some of us are really agressive, but then, they don't really know the manners depicted in Islam. I could put an example, but that would be a lecture or sermon, and I'm sure many of you don't want that, neither do I =p.

EDIT: FYI I'm NOT one of these "derailed" muslims.




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#6 8 years ago

i remember that a lateral thinking thinktank in the UK suggested that the anger seen in some muslims was due to a zinc deficiency in the population's diet and suggested that the UK send marmite (high-zinc spread, similar to vegemite for you aussies), as to alleviate this. would be amusing to see how that would work out. this seems like a more plausible explanation.




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#7 8 years ago

Well I'm not sure how much this actually holds but I'd have to say most of it is due to human foolishness and being stubborn.




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Siddharth Gupta;5418580Well I'm not sure how much this actually holds but I'd have to say most of it is due to human foolishness and being stubborn.

religious overzealousness is undoubtedly a large reason, but you have to ask if this foolishness and stubbornness is due to inbreeding. inbreeding has been proven to have an effect on social behaviour.




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#9 8 years ago
Keyser_Soze;5418519i remember that a lateral thinking thinktank in the UK suggested that the anger seen in some muslims was due to a zinc deficiency in the population's diet and suggested that the UK send marmite (high-zinc spread, similar to vegemite for you aussies), as to alleviate this. would be amusing to see how that would work out.

Naturally, the levels of anger and hatred would be decreased in about one half of the population, but hugely increased in the other. ;)




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#10 8 years ago
Embee;5418163This sentence actually nullified his whole research ... Our Prophet was patient, not an idiot yelling over other people because they didn't believe him. And we're actually supposed to follow his example: So, if someone criticizes us, we've to stay calm... But yes, the inbred thing is true ...

Patient until he had enough power to have them killed. Also it didnt nullify what he was saying (not that I fully agree with what hes saying) because he clearly said in the last 1400 years of inbreeding, thats the time since muhammed! thi bloke is talking "Genetics", not what your "Holy" Book says.




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