Death 19 replies

well i'm not religious or such, but i am sure we don't "dissapear" since energy can never dissapear, it can only be transformed in other energy. this law out science made me believe that we do keep existing on, but in another form or power

abandonator;4493587well i'm not religious or such, but i am sure we don't "dissapear" since energy can never dissapear, it can only be transformed in other energy. this law out science made me believe that we do keep existing on, but in another form or power

From a purely scientific standpoint, the energy your brain uses to think doesn't disappear. It goes back to the potassium ions from whence it came, or it is used to move some muscles before you die.

liquideyez;4493118people who have been near death or have died and were revived always recall seeing a white light getting brighter and brighter. others who have experienced death recall seeing themselves laying down as they hover above their dead corpse. strange it may seem but the Egyptians saw death as a phase or passage to the after life. but honestly no one will ever know. until you die. i wonder if theirs email and IM in the after life.

I saw neither a bright light, nor a 3rd-person view of my body. The best way I can describe it is just slipping into nothingness. "Black," as Transmission put it, doesn't really describe it. It's different than that, because it's not like you're seeing anything. All your senses feel either surreal, or completely detached from you. I literally felt like I had encountered true nothingness--something I've never felt while I wasn't, you know, dying. That's just my experience, though.

As for the afterlife, I believe the true afterlife--that is, your existence after you've passed from Earth--is in the heart and minds of others. It lies in the changes you made in the world, the memories you left behind in the care of others, whether they be loved ones or complete strangers. That's why I think it's so important to do your best to make a mark on the world.

For a personal afterlife, I read ages ago some theory that Heaven/Hell was just a flood of memories your brain sends out after you die. Technically the brain is alive for a VERY short amount of time after your body dies, and is faced with a flood of memories. If you've lived a good life, you experience a recall of good memories; if you've lived a bad life, you'll experience a flood of bad memories which equates to Hell.

I don't know all the ins-and-outs of that theory, as it's been a long time since I heard it. I wish I could go into more detail about it and give specifics/sources.

As Showdown said, this is an incredibly useless topic from a debatable standpoint, however, you asked for opinions Ash. And my opinion and thoughts you shall receive. :p

I'd like to believe that there is some kind of afterlife awaiting us once our bodies are cast away in this world, otherwise many people would end up leading a very pessimistic view (Why live? We all die someday.) Perhaps, in my reasoning this is why we have religion, so people have a vessel they can place their passion and hope into while clinging to the belief there is more to everything we have now.

As for the Grim Reaper, this would be interesting... when my time eventually comes I'll be looking out for the bastard. He sure as hell won't take me lying down. Death is something that has never really plagued my thoughts. As long as I achieve what I want in the coming years and can reflect on what I've done with happiness, I believe I will find it easier to accept.

That isn't to say I'm not going out fighting. Screw lying in a hospital bed, I came into this world covered in blood and screaming, I plan to leave in a similar manner.

How dramatic.

Honestly, the thought of spending eternity in 'darkness' scares the shit out me. However, if that is to be our fate, we'll have no heart, we'd have no feeling, therefore we can't actually be scared.. Right?

Darkness !=nothing. For many non-religious people, there is nothing after death. Not even you to be semi conscious. There's no eternity to spend. There's just an end.

I believe that when you die, you are systematically decomposed and your nutrients are absorbed by plants. Plants are then eaten by animals, which are then eaten by humans, and if that initial plant managed to absorb enough of your nutrients and bits of your brain, you can then take control over that person's body and become reborn, in a sense. Not even vegetarianism can save you from this fate. This is why I'm a bit weird, because I have the consciousnesses of three lunatics trying to wrestle control of my body away from me. It's also why I can't walk in a straight line most of the time, or so I'd imagine.

God help you if your entire body is eaten by a turtle, however, because it would really suck to be trapped as a turtle for a century.

I have no proof to validate this theory, of course, but I bet you can't prove me wrong either so I win. In the meantime, I aim to get myself buried underneath the field where most of n0e's food is grown, so I can mess around with the Admin CP and haunt the forums.

my definition of death death: when a body becomes to old to function properly or when something does not allow a body to function properly ie a bullet, disease etc.

wraithcat;4494740Darkness !=nothing. For many non-religious people, there is nothing after death. Not even you to be semi conscious. There's no eternity to spend. There's just an end.

this is something i hope doesnt happen. because i always think and its incredibly hard for me to imagine how i would spend all of my years collecting memories and happy thoughts. only to have it thrown out by, not knowing anything at all and to not even notice it.

liquideyez;4493118people who have been near death or have died and were revived always recall seeing a white light getting brighter and brighter. others who have experienced death recall seeing themselves laying down as they hover above their dead corpse.[/quote]I have heard of similar stories. This though, beings up my previous point of our brain simply playing tricks on us. Could it be, that close to death, our brain 'decides' to show us a few things to ease the pain (in a manner of speaking). We can't even begin to understand everything our brain is capable of.

Maxa;4493136Animals act mostly by instincts or previously learnt stuff, they eat, procreate and sleep. Yet they dont have feelings of living their life in vain. If they have such feelings, at least they keep it to themselves, no animal has so high communicating skills.[/quote]It is quotable that you brought up animals to this. Would animals (if we get an afterlife) get one too? Even though they aren't actually as intelligent as us? - at least, on the same level of us anyway..?

Ryette;4494699I saw neither a bright light, nor a 3rd-person view of my body. The best way I can describe it is just slipping into nothingness. "Black," as Transmission put it, doesn't really describe it. It's different than that, because it's not like you're seeing anything. All your senses feel either surreal, or completely detached from you. I literally felt like I had encountered true nothingness--something I've never felt while I wasn't, you know, dying. That's just my experience, though.[/quote]A thought worth brining up here. Not directly linked to you either, but you've got the thought going, so it'll continue from this quote: What if an 'afterlife' couldn't be experienced in this life? For those that don't quite grasp what I am saying, I'll try to explain it a little better. If, upon our death, we... 'ascend' to a higher level, or an afterlife (or whatever), could it be that what we are there, can't exist / be comprehended here on Earth? Could it be, that everyone who has ever 'died' has gone to this afterlife for a brief time, yet, once brought back, cannot remember because it is beyond our brain power to actually comprehend this other existence.. Does that make sense to anyone? [quote=Ryette;4494699]As for the afterlife, I believe the true afterlife--that is, your existence after you've passed from Earth--is in the heart and minds of others. It lies in the changes you made in the world, the memories you left behind in the care of others, whether they be loved ones or complete strangers. That's why I think it's so important to do your best to make a mark on the world.

I would have thought that more to be with memories than actual afterlife. I see where you're coming from (I think) but an afterlife would mean existence forever. If you die and are remembered, it wont be forever (like an afterlife is suppose to be). [quote=Flodgy;4494717]As for the Grim Reaper, this would be interesting... when my time eventually comes I'll be looking out for the bastard. He sure as hell won't take me lying down. Death is something that has never really plagued my thoughts. As long as I achieve what I want in the coming years and can reflect on what I've done with happiness, I believe I will find it easier to accept. [quote=Flodgy;4494717]That isn't to say I'm not going out fighting. Screw lying in a hospital bed, I came into this world covered in blood and screaming, I plan to leave in a similar manner.

I can relate to this topic. I don't want to die in Hospital. I made that decision a long time ago. I either want to die in my sleep (at home) or doing something that I'll be remembered for (at least, for a while anyway). I'm not too sure though whether I'd want to know that I am dying. [quote=Mr. Matt;4494781]I believe that when you die, you are systematically decomposed and your nutrients are absorbed by plants. Plants are then eaten by animals, which are then eaten by humans, and if that initial plant managed to absorb enough of your nutrients and bits of your brain, you can then take control over that person's body and become reborn, in a sense. Not even vegetarianism can save you from this fate. This is why I'm a bit weird, because I have the consciousnesses of three lunatics trying to wrestle control of my body away from me. It's also why I can't walk in a straight line most of the time, or so I'd imagine.

+ Green. Nuff Said. ;) Been Drinking? :beer:

Death...pffffftt... who needs him?

wraithcat;4494740Darkness !=nothing. For many non-religious people, there is nothing after death. Not even you to be semi conscious. There's no eternity to spend. There's just an end.

I'm non-religious, but i'm unsure. I would be glad if there was a "higher plane".