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Flash525

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#1 12 years ago

[COLOR=black]Over here in the UK its £20 per lesson (an hours worth), though it is usually recommended that you have a two hour lesson, so that’s £40 a day (one day a week) for two hours of driving around. I mean wow. What a way to make a fortune right?[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Then you get the tests, The Theory Test is between £20 & £25 (I can't remember as it was a while ago that I took it). Nevertheless, that took me three attempts, the first I thought it would be easy - and failed on one half of it, the second attempt I did a little revising, and failed on the other half (opposed from the first time), and the third time I revised a fair bit, and passed - Mainly because some of the questions asked were on the practise CD's.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Then you get the actual Practical Test. £48 for 45 minutes worth of driving - I had mine yesterday (failed on a sodding roundabout) - If only roads were like in the US and were all (in a sense) straight. No roundabouts, I hate those things, half the cars don't indicate, and sometimes you don't have a clue where you’re going.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Anyhow, my test was about 3:30pm, had an hour or so before of driving, and then had the test. And I had to pay the instructor for the test too (£20) for him to literally wait in the driving centre whilst I took me test. - So with a days' work (about 2 or 3 hours), I spent £88 for sweet bugger all (as I didn't pass). Was close, but as said above, messed up on a roundabout and kinda cut a car up (though the car wasn't exactly close, and didn't beep, so I figured it was ok until I got back and he said I had failed).[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Anyway, ending the rant, just like to say that I think driving prices are a joke. Just to add, you also get many people that pass their tests with flying colors, but then drive like a maniac.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]"Boy Racers" - right, because driving fast and putting other people’s lives in danger is a "cool" thing? uhhhh... No! Sometimes I wish they'd just crash and be incapable of driving.[/COLOR]




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#2 12 years ago

plenty of people pass their test, then think they are an F1 driver. i took my driving test 25 years ago, and my motorcycle test 30 years ago. its a lot tougher now i guess, but still see plenty of idiots around. usual thing for a kid to pass his test, get a licence, buy a cheap car and thinks he's god behind the wheel. thats fine until he has an accident. . every so often someone crashes a car because they are driving like a twat, a while ago some kid clipped his car on a wall then went across the road and down a 50 foot drop onto a railway line. killed himself, and also his girlfriend they were only 18 i think. . its about time they upped the age to 21 or something and made the test even tougher. when i took my motorcycle test it was just a matter of riding around some streets while the examniner watched you as he walked around, these days on a bike you have instructors following you and have to go through a long process to get a full licence for a bike. it should be same for cars. . as for the cost of lessons, well nothings cheap in this country anymore. everything you buy has some kind of tax on it. got to keep our civil servants pockets lined.


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#3 12 years ago

I would suggest they put the prices up even further, as well as increasing the age you are allowed to start driving in the first place (and including a maximum age as well, given the front page of the Shropshire Star today features yet another menacing elderly driver). I'd also like them to put a restriction on how frequently you can retake a test. If you failed the theory test, you should have to wait for six months or more before retaking it. If you failed the practical test, you should have to wait for a year or preferably even two years before retaking it. And these times should be doubled for each subsequent time you fail. I would also be in favour of limiting the amount of times you can take the test before you are 'struck off' by the DVLA, but that is a little too strict as people can change over time.

I also think that motorway driving should be including in the practical test. Too many dickheads with a P plate can't drive on a motorway to save their lives. Motorway driving training should be compulsory, not part of an optional 'advanced' course.

I would suggest making the test a lot more difficult. The theory test should have much more complicated driving questions and it should most certainly not be multiple choice, and the actual practical test should require more complicated manoeuvres with less margin for error. The probationary period should be more strict and should require frequent (free) testing and monitoring for the entire two years.

And finally, it should be a lot easier to lose your licence (permanently) when you do finally have it. Halve the number of points you can get before it is revoked, or increase the penalties you can receive, and make it harder (if not impossible) to reapply for a licence afterwards.

Prices be damned -- you're getting behind the wheels of the most deadly killing machine on the planet today; it bloody well should be hard, and it bloody well should be expensive, and it's not enough of either as it stands.




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#4 12 years ago

They don't charge you very much for a lesson then, nor the theory test and practical test. A theory test here costs 30 € and a practical can run up to 200€ (bunch of bastards). I failed the theory test 6 times (with each 7 faults, 6 is allowed). Practical test was easy, and yes I encountered some roundabouts myself, but I find them better then traffic lights. Especially now when you have your drivers license, you can just take them at good speeds (40-50 km/h if the roundabout is suited for it) and there wont be a instructor shouting in your ears not to do that :p About indication, I don't see the trouble of putting the thing up or down, but it pretty annoying when people in front of you just wont do it. Most annoying though being on the road are these things: 1st. People that drive 20 km/h slower then is allowed (that really pisses me of) 2nd. People that don't know how to join the traffic going onto the highway. 3rd. Old folks that just look ahead and nowhere else (90% of the time they have hats on, wich is a good thing, because you can spot them from miles away)




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#5 12 years ago

It is a lot of money indeed, but I agree with matt. Its dangerous, and Id rather drive around knowing all the people around me can actually DRIVE.




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#6 12 years ago

Do you consider yourself a danger on the road then? You are young aswell.




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#7 12 years ago

But I know I CAN drive. not all young people are dangers.




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#8 12 years ago

Thats what all young people say. I can drive.




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#9 12 years ago

Ok, I can't drive, but never had any accident so far.




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#10 12 years ago
M!tchusual thing for a kid to pass his test, get a licence, buy a cheap car and thinks he's god behind the wheel. thats fine until he has an accident.[/quote]I don't see how its "fine"... though do agree that accidents usually occur because of them.
M!tch. every so often someone crashes a car because they are driving like a twat, a while ago some kid clipped his car on a wall then went across the road and down a 50 foot drop onto a railway line. killed himself, and also his girlfriend they were only 18 i think.[/quote]Shame for his girlfriend, but he should have been more careful. Chances are he was showing off trying to impress.
M!tchas for the cost of lessons, well nothings cheap in this country anymore. everything you buy has some kind of tax on it. got to keep our civil servants pockets lined.[/quote]Thats another thing, Car Tax? I mean hell, I can understand Insurance & obviosuly petrol, but why the hell do we pay car tax? Just so we can drive? We pay enough learning.
Mr. MattI would suggest they put the prices up even further, as well as increasing the age you are allowed to start driving in the first place (and including a maximum age as well, given the front page of the Shropshire Star today features yet another menacing elderly driver).[/quote]I'll go with that, ages up a little (maybe not to 21 though). Think a lot of people leave school at 15 / 16, and by 17 can start learning, people need a car to get around, and they need to get around to get jobs.
Mr. MattI'd also like them to put a restriction on how frequently you can retake a test. If you failed the theory test, you should have to wait for six months or more before retaking it. If you failed the practical test, you should have to wait for a year or preferably even two years before retaking it. And these times should be doubled for each subsequent time you fail. I would also be in favour of limiting the amount of times you can take the test before you are 'struck off' by the DVLA, but that is a little too strict as people can change over time.[/quote]Some of this I think is a little too strict. You said about waiting a whole year if you fail your test, well, thats all very well, but say you fail it twice, you have to go do your theory yet again (you have to pass your practical within two years of taking your theory).
Mr. MattI would suggest making the test a lot more difficult. The theory test should have much more complicated driving questions and it should most certainly not be multiple choice, and the actual practical test should require more complicated manoeuvres with less margin for error.
Although I failed, the test did seem "easy" and shot past exceedingly quick, however them doing their job, and such... Making it too difficult, the roads would be empty. [quote=Mr. Matt]And finally, it should be a lot easier to lose your licence (permanently) when you do finally have it. Halve the number of points you can get before it is revoked, or increase the penalties you can receive, and make it harder (if not impossible) to reapply for a licence afterwards.
Agreed. Though I'd have something with this that you have to retake the test, but at a more advance stage so you would be picked up on the "bad things". - Driving like a twat for X number of years would show in a retake. [quote=KoЯsakoff]They don't charge you very much for a lesson then, nor the theory test and practical test. A theory test here costs 30 € and a practical can run up to 200€ (bunch of bastards).
Unlucky! - Though I don't know the copmparrison between € & £ [quote=KoЯsakoff]About indication, I don't see the trouble of putting the thing up or down, but it pretty annoying when people in front of you just wont do it.
I find it doesn't help when you are coming onto a roundabout and people are going left right and center without letting other road users know. It doesn't take two seconds to flick the indicator. [quote=jackthehammer]It is a lot of money indeed, but I agree with matt. Its dangerous, and Id rather drive around knowing all the people around me can actually DRIVE.
Never going to happen. There are always going to be idiots on the road, which is a shame. I can't work out for the life of me why, half of them end up in hospital, then blow me, they get out, and back to speeding. Do they not learn? [quote=jackthehammer]But I know I CAN drive. not all young people are dangers.

:ditto: Many youngsters can drive, it's the few that spoil it for the rest. People don't notice the youngsters who can drive, they notice the ones that cannot. - Which gives youngsters as a whole a bad name.