Vertical345;5423112Oh the people decide? So is it normal for them to convict people who are just exercising their right of free speech?[/QUOTE]
You mean, is it normal to convict scum preying on bereaved families? Absolutely, and long may that remain. Hey, we jailed someone for making a bomb threat recently as well.
Vertical345;5423112The government refuses to acknowledge the human right of self defense, and now freedom of speech as well.[/QUOTE]
Elect a saner batch of politicans mate. I'd heard that your politicans were getting a bit crazy, but that's a bit bad even for American politics. Are you expected to just sit down calmly and be robbed?
[QUOTE=Vertical345;5423112]Here in America we have a saying "Your rights end where mine begin." For example, if I am carrying a gun, which is a protected right, and it makes someone uncomfortable, then too bad. I am exercising a protected right, so it doesn't matter what people think of it. The same goes for this situation. The guy was practicing a (supposedly) protected right, so other people should screw off, because it really wasn't hurting anyone.
The principle is the same over here, Your rights end when mine begin. In this case he was hurting families by (falsely) claiming that he was having an affair with the persons partner before their death purely to cause pain on the part of the bereaved family member.
His right to "free speech" didn't extend to harassing a bereaved family, the same as your rights in the US don't extend to being able to scream "FIRE!!!" at the top of your voice in a crowded cinema.
[QUOTE=Vertical345;5423112]And I would be right there to support your argument on Guantanamo bay. I'm NOT saying America is better than Britain, or ANYTHING like that. I'm a libertarian, I believe strongly in free nations, whether they be mine, or someone else's. When I see peoples rights violated it gets me mad. I have no anti-British agenda, and if this happened in America, I would be EQUALLY upset about it.
I see. Most people assume that you think that American law should apply to the whole world when you state that someone in country X can't be convicted for breaking the law because it's not a crime in America.
I knew this had to have taken place in the nanny state u.k before I even finished reading the first sentence. malicious communications, LOL. Instead of calling the police, couldn't they have just blocked his facebook account?
Well if that wasn't bad enough, this dude might face lifetime imprisonment from trolling on facebook... LiveLeak.com - Jail time for Facebook criticism of Islam?
That's in Palestine, it's is not exactly in the top ten free nations in the world.
This on the other hand is in some place called Wisconsin. Is that not in America? =p
Again, Glass houses & stones...
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:lulz: Would have loved to see the look on his face when the police came knocking on his door. They really should check his mental health, though.
Heh, I work in Ardwick.
Jade Goody I have no time for though - she used her own death as a PR stunt frankly.
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There are limits to any right. Take "pursuit of happiness"; if my definition of happiness is going on a killing spree then most people will probably agree that this is a bad interpretation of the right.
Whether you draw a limit at insults or physical harm doesn't really matter. In one case the additional freedom to insult people lies with people who like to insult, in the other the freedom of living without harassment goes to civil people. Neither option leads to more freedom, they are just different ways to distribute freedom. So it is a question of preference, not of ideals.
Besides, a clear distinction between verbal and physical violence isn't so easy. What about extremists who chant "death to America"? I'd feel more comfortable in a country where such people are imprisoned than in a country where the authorities wait until the bombs go off.
Vertical345;5423112So is it normal for them to convict people who are just exercising their right of free speech?
Standing outside a military funeral with signs that say "Thank God for dead soldiers" is freedom of speech as well. But its a dick move.
Just because you have the protected ability to say something, doesnt mean I cant punch you in the mouth for saying it.
FileTrekker;5423451Jade Goody I have no time for though - she used her own death as a PR stunt frankly.
I agree with this. While she did do a lot for cervical cancer in her later life, other than that she was an overweight racist who was famous for being a moron in a house.
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