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#1 7 years ago
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#2 7 years ago

No comments? =p


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#3 7 years ago

Pretty sure everyone saw it coming. With all the attention this case is getting, they had to charge him with something.


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#4 7 years ago

I guess they figured that they had to arrest him but waited the media attention to decrease a little so that it isn't completly obvious that not arresting him in the first place was a failure which is only topped by the fact that he is now being arrested by public demand.




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#5 7 years ago

If this had happened in almost any other country on the planet, the media would just treat it as a murder like any other (1st, 2nd, manslaughter). I blame the media for making such a big deal of it. It's not the only murder to ever occur, but it certainly isn't one of the worst ones (I could elaborate but I don't think some people would appreciate), so I don't think turning this murder into the next Kony 2012 was that great of an idea. Not to say the media is entirely at fault, public lack of knowledge probably played a big role in it too. And if what Fancypants said about him being arrested because of public demand - well then I say he should be let free! Fuck what the public wants when it comes to the courtroom - that's what the jury is for, unbiased (hopefully) opinions.

I'm not very knowledgeable on what happened after the murder, I don't know anything about the trial so I can't really say anything about it. I just dislike seeing it in my inbox whenever I get onto Youtube.




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#6 7 years ago

Im surprised because i would have figured for a manslaughter charge. easier to prove/disprove and seems more likely. murder 2 is some serious shiat which indicates one of two things -They found some REAL evidence that would warrant 30 years in the clink OR -His daddy pulled some strings getting a charge thats harder to prove so that Georgey boy can skate.

If they hit him with Manslaughter, he probably had a 75% chance of either copping a plea or outright guilt verdict. Murder 2 though...lets him get off because the motivation angle will be harder to come up with.

I will reiterate once more. The media circus surrounding this case has NOTHING at all to do with somebody being murdered. It has EVERYTHING to do with the initial claims of police corruption. When the story FIRST broke, it was about a guy who shot an unarmed youth after apparently following him around, and the police saying 'fvck it' and letting him go. Lots of people found this suspicious as hell so they badgered on about it and after another week it become this big media thing with cries of racism being tossed in. Maybe racism DID have something to do with the police failing to do their jobs but the point stands, had Martin been brought in, at least charged and held for a bit, nobody would have known about this.




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#7 7 years ago

A few commenters around the web have suggested that they are aiming for a higher charge to do two things:

1. Appease the masses, who they think are after 1st degree murder charges.

2. Coax the defense, judge, and jury, to accept a manslaughter charge.

According to articles around the web, the story went something like this.

Troubled teen walks to the store, and then walks home. Foolish "Neighborhood Watchman" sees a man walking in the rain and thinks "burglar". "Watchman" pursues the teen. Teen notices he is being followed and thinks "burglar". They both believe the other's intentions to be malicious, and so they prepare to "stand their ground". They both procede to escalate, rather than descalate the situation. One of them dies. The cops show up on the scene, but fail to arrest anybody.

The parents are on record stating that they understand what happened, and hold nothing against the shooter.

This is a tragedy, and I think that Zimmerman should be held accountable for his mistake. Unfortunately, that will likely ruin his life.




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#8 7 years ago

I'm not suprised he was charged. Probabley won't be convicted of anything. But I think it's safe to say whether he is convicted or not, his life is thouroughly ruined thanks to the retarded media attention. I think it's stupid how murders/self defense killings happen everyday all across the country and one black teenager gets killed and the whole flipping African American community within 1000 miles calls for a lynching. It's the Casey Anthony thing all over again. The media just needs to stay out of the courtrooms and let the Judicial system work so that everybody has the best chance of getting a fair and unbiased trial.




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#9 7 years ago

The judicial system needs to work.

In this case, it never made it to the judicial system. Some beat cop decided to be judge, jury, and pardon Zimmerman while on scene. Zimmerman has a right to a fair trial, but so does the family of the victim. What happens if they do not get due process?

Florida should still charge those who stand their ground. Whether or not the situation was a SYG case should be decided a in a court of law, by a jury, not by a beat cop that did not witness the crime.

Honestly, I still believe that Zimmerman should get time for this. This case is no longer about Zimmerman, it is about gangs. Gangs are looking for any loophole, or exploit they can get to hurt their opposition.

There also needs to be a limit to SYG. If YOU created the situation, then you need to be prepared to face the consequences. We don't need people "accidentally" escalating SYG encounters into death matches. We want to discourage that behavior. We want to de-escalate, not escalate the situation.




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#10 7 years ago

It's all well and good to say that the media should stay out of the judicial system so it can work. But then what do you do when it doesn't work?

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As far as I'm concerned, this guy stalked and murdered a child. By the laws of decency and common sense, even if not necessarily in a clear-cut manner by the fucked up laws of the land.

There's no excuse for following someone and confronting them like that - once you've done that there's no plausible description under which it's self defence. You created the situation. It's self defence on the other person's part - after all they don't know why you've followed them and they have a right to live their life without that sort of shit - but on your part? No. You forfeited that defence when you started the clearly hostile act of stalking them.




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