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Silberio Advanced Member

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#21 8 years ago

Maybe it's going to mean the same as "pal" or "bud".

I read somewhere that years ago, the N-word just meant a person of black color. Nothing offensive at all. Humans have this strange fucking tendency to get butthurt over pretty much anything and making it big.

Also, the Polack is right. (Joking there buddy =p)

Anyhow, yes, since this has been repeated so many times, yes, we are mature enough to not use it offensively, and yes, there are situations where the word can be used. Just like when I go in on a thread and say "What's up, Dutchies" or when I greet some of the British members by saying "Brit!". Someone replied with "Texmex!" or something, and it was just plain god damn fun.

I like GTA SA, and I find it funny how they talk, and it's fun to replicate that... We do that sometimes on the spam forum... I mean, impersonate fun things we like.


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#22 8 years ago
Obankobi;5653413Why in (western) society is it generally okay to say chink and kong and cracker, but if you say nig, may all the gods of all the worlds save your sorry soul?

I'll answer this one simply: because Asians, White People, Gay people, NO OTHER PEOPLE were enslaved for hundreds of years and persecuted with a word.

I'm not saying other people weren't ever enslaved, I'm just saying there weren't hundreds of years of Asians being enslaved, sold, and whipped while screaming, "Take that ya chink!" That is largely to do with its negative connotation, especially in regards to race relations.




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#23 8 years ago

Indeed, some words just have a much more negative meaning to it, especially if the context is unknown or used amongst strangers. Besides, this is only a forum, now if somebody would wish to ban certain words by law.... that would be rather pointless (alternative words will be used instead, it can't be enforced properpy, free speech, discrimination/racism already being an offence, context etc.)




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#24 8 years ago

Anson992;5653862I'll answer this one simply: because Asians, White People, Gay people, NO OTHER PEOPLE were enslaved for hundreds of years and persecuted with a word.

I'm not saying other people weren't ever enslaved, I'm just saying there weren't hundreds of years of Asians being enslaved, sold, and whipped while screaming, "Take that ya chink!" That is largely to do with its negative connotation, especially in regards to race relations.

I'm really sorry to say this, but this is wrong, except maybe the part with the word-prosecution.

Black people are not the only race to have been enslaved for hundreds of years. To just name one, we have the ancient Egyptians who kept the Jewish people as slaves for well... A good couple of years.


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#25 8 years ago

Pretty sure the Jews have had it far worse than any other group of people throughout history.

Anson, there have been slaves in every continent, China has had slavery, India has had it, Arabia has had it, America has had it. I think most people focus on black slavery though because it has been the most recent and marked the end of legal slavery. But to say no other group has been enslaved, whipped, etc for hundreds of years is just... very wrong.




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#26 8 years ago

Einherjar Silberio;5654368I'm really sorry to say this, but this is wrong, except maybe the part with the word-prosecution. Black people are not the only race to have been enslaved for hundreds of years. To just name one, we have the ancient Egyptians who kept the Jewish people as slaves for well... A good couple of years.[/QUOTE]

Schofield;5654371Pretty sure the Jews have had it far worse than any other group of people throughout history.

Anson, there have been slaves in every continent, China has had slavery, India has had it, Arabia has had it, America has had it. I think most people focus on black slavery though because it has been the most recent and marked the end of legal slavery. But to say no other group has been enslaved, whipped, etc for hundreds of years is just... very wrong.

[QUOTE=Anson992;5653862]I'll answer this one simply: because Asians, White People, Gay people, NO OTHER PEOPLE were enslaved for hundreds of years and persecuted with a word.

I'm not saying other people weren't ever enslaved, I'm just saying there weren't hundreds of years of Asians being enslaved, sold, and whipped while screaming, "Take that ya chink!" That is largely to do with its negative connotation, especially in regards to race relations.

Please reread what I said again very very carefully. I clearly stated that I'm not saying other people weren't ever enslaved I was saying that no other group was enslaved and persecuted by a single word. I'm not ignorant. I know that every single group of people has been enslaved and persecuted at some period of time. I know the holocaust and the internment camps, I know the whole nine yards.

But I none of these people were enslaved AND subsequently persecuted under the N-Word. THAT was the whole point I was making. Please, read very carefully. Please. :rolleyes:




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#27 8 years ago
Einherjar SilberioI'm really sorry to say this, but this is wrong, except maybe the part with the word-prosecution

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Look, what you bring up just takes at least me to the whole first post. The overly bloated sensitivity of that word. Other races, for some reason, have not been "prosecuted by a word" because... Well, some weird reason. Most of those people, once had derogative words that probably fell out of use after some period of time. Same with the N-word, I guess... In a couple of years or deceniums, the word might just fall off if people don't keep whining about how sensitive it is, because really... It's not sensitive or offensive nowadays unless used in a bad manner.

Why do I say it's not sensitive or offensive? For the simple reason that the people who are supposedly martirised (sp?) with the word use it to refer to each other and exclude usually the ones who are not black and make it socially unacceptable for them to use it. I think that's more racist than saying NlGGER, because they make it exclusive to their social groups and/or race to use it in a friendly manner, thus pretty much walking all over any kind of democratic, freedom-of-speech ideas.


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#28 8 years ago

Well thats the same way that I have friends that are calling racism because BlackPeopleMeet.com is a thing and because February is Black History Month (both of which I don't care for at all). Racism is just that, setting yourself separate from any other race. And I agree, the word isn't a big deal. But at the same time, its a big deal. Because of society. Because of racism. Because of black people making it exclusive. Because of white people using it in the first place.

Tis why I don't have a problem with my friends saying it with me. Because I honestly don't give a shit about the word anymore. Which brings me back to my original point. Its up to the discretion of the minorities you're hanging out with on whether or not you can use the word. Just because I don't have a problem with the word, doesn't mean other black people don't have a problem with the word. So in my opinion, since its not a spectacular word anyway, is that people just don't use it around people who aren't comfortable with you using it. Majority is adapting. There is a reason why I don't drop F-Bombs around my grandmother. If people use that same filtration with the N-Word, no one who doesn't want them to use it will even know they're using it.

And thats all there is to it.




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#29 8 years ago
Schofield;5654371I think most people focus on black slavery though because it has been the most recent and marked the end of legal slavery.

The Arab slave trade continued legally into the 1970s and continues "illegally" to this day.

Anyway, I think most people focus on black slavery simply because "we" (western civilization) institutionalized something that was counter to our liberal ideals and we have a hard time reconciling it.

As for the issue at hand, I really don't care about racial slurs. To me, they're just words and we give them power by being offended. At the same time, I wouldn't use them in polite company or in their intended offensive ways. However, I do use them jokingly as I feel making them jokes helps to lessen their impact.




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#30 8 years ago
Red Menace;5655043However, I do use them jokingly as I feel making them jokes helps to lessen their impact.

As do I, I just hope that you, as do I, only use them jokingly around people who you know are okay with it.