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#1 4 years ago

Ok seriously, I know it's a tall order, but I need dire help with deciding what I want to study at the university level while bearing in mind I understand that there are other ways of learning what you feel like at any given moment.

But this is simply for that "oh-so-special" Baccalaureate :mad: and if I'm to survive I must have a program that I enjoy.

So this thread will contain a lot of information about my tastes, experiences, and a few times when I felt like something was a perfect fit.

We'll get to that in a moment, but first I would love to hear some questions to get the ball rolling. So with that in mind, I'mma take my brain medicine and you can ask me anything you want regarding the university situation.


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#2 4 years ago

Why are you doing it to yourself? Joking, joking. But that is actually a question. What do you want out of University?




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#3 4 years ago

[COLOR=Blue]More importantly, what do you like doing? Do you like building motorcycles? Do you enjoy building with wood? What is your better hobby? [/COLOR]


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#4 4 years ago

As has already been suggested, I would first ask yourself why you are going to university if you don't have a clear goal in mind. Too many people go to university just because it's there. They emerge with a degree in soup, hazy memories of parties they may or may not have actually attended, and crippling debt, only go into a proofreading job that doesn't have a particularly pressing requirement for degree-level soup knowledge.

I'm of the opinion that unless you have a career in mind, a career that would benefit from (or require) such a qualification, it's best to head out into the world and figure out what you want out of life.

The thing to remember about university is that it's always there - you can always return to education at a later date, when you know exactly what you want. Someone I worked with until recently did exactly that a couple of months ago, in fact.




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#5 4 years ago

I'd like to be a professional helicopter pilot. Seriously. I love aircraft and aviation as well as the science involved.

It only costs about $23k for the entire pilot's course + instruments + licensure.


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#6 4 years ago

No.


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#7 4 years ago

What Mr. Matt said. I mean, if you have to ask the question then Uni clearly isn't for you right now.


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#8 4 years ago

In my opinion university education is going to be sort of a standard soon. At least over here it is rather easy nowadays to get an university education, especially if you are clever enough to pick easy courses at easy schools. So a lot of your competition will have university education, which doesn't make life easier if you don't have any.

The US system is of course totally screwed up what with the huge investments necessary. In my opinion as a student looking for uni education in the US your choices are limited to getting into one of the elite schools (only then do you have a good chance of paying off your debts later) or getting your education elsewhere. Like in Germany, where universities are pretty good and education is free.




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#9 4 years ago

There is certainly the aspect of things that the less any qualification says about you, and your efforts, the more you will need to invest in qualifications in order to say anything of meaning. However, there's also the aspect of things that at some point that's going to become unsustainable. When everyone has a BS you will need an MA, and when everyone has an MA you will need a Ph.D. and, when everyone has one of them, where do you go from there? Five publications in the peer-reviewed journal? You'll have people delayed from entering the labour market until they are in their late 20s, or early 30s. It just can't last, and HR departments are going to have to switch to other methods to distinguish good candidates from bad ones – or take other approaches, such as becoming good at firing rather than hiring.

The UK is a very class-based society, and even here I've not found it impossible to gain good employment simply on the basis of experience and demonstrated skills.

Do I think you should go to university? Yes, but only if you're going to make the most of the opportunities it presents you with – and I mean more by that than simply academic opportunities: social ones, engaging yourself with projects that align with your interests, that sort of thing.

What if you don't go to university? Well, pick up a trade, try and find a decent apprenticeship, knock around for a bit and try to find something that interests you – maybe go to university down the line if you really need it.




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#10 4 years ago
Nemmerle;5748450There is certainly the aspect of things that the less any qualification says about you, and your efforts, the more you will need to invest in qualifications in order to say anything of meaning. However, there's also the aspect of things that at some point that's going to become unsustainable. When everyone has a BS you will need an MA, and when everyone has an MA you will need a Ph.D. and, when everyone has one of them, where do you go from there? Five publications in the peer-reviewed journal? You'll have people delayed from entering the labour market until they are in their late 20s, or early 30s. It just can't last, and HR departments are going to have to switch to other methods to distinguish good candidates from bad ones – or take other approaches, such as becoming good at firing rather than hiring.

I agree, in my opinion there is a pretty good chance that MOOCs will be a viable alternative at some point. Not sure how long it will take though, the existing education system has a lot of inertia and I wouldn't be surprised if HR chiefs will base their decisions on "I had to go through that shit, why shouldn't he?" to some extent.

As for industry, they are already taking action by relying more and more on assessment centers and similar tests. They try to test you directly for analytical abilities and intelligence. So in my opinion a good way to get a job in the future may be to go through a lot of online math courses and practise tests that are thought to indicate intelligence.




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