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#1 4 years ago

Kitten Nearly Dies On Vegan Diet, Gets Healed With Meat. People being ideological is fine, but they should keep ideology away from pets or babies. Cats and dogs can't be vegan, they're natural carnivores. Babies can't be vegan either, humans are natural omnivores and babies need meat in their diet to develop properly. Such lifestyles should be avoided until one can make their own choices.




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#2 4 years ago

That's so messed up :(


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#3 4 years ago

That's indeed very messed up, those people should keep it at a pet carrot...




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#4 4 years ago

Nothing wrong with a vegetarian diet for a baby as long as the parents aren't stupid but a kitten!!




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#5 4 years ago

That's an old story.

Though, still sad. Cats are carnivores. It's nature, it's not a choice. They require the nutrients in meat in order to survive.

Hell, humans are omnivores. We need both meat and plantlife to live a healthy life. Depriving yourself of one or the other is actually an unhealthy choice.


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#6 4 years ago

Know what I never got? Humans are TECHNICALLY omnivores, yet there are cultures out there (and some have been around for a long time) where people simply do not eat meat, one reason or another. At most, some of them will only eat eggs. They seem to be doing just fine. At least for as long as it really matters anyway.

Why is there this insistence that meat does not have vegetarian substitutes? Or that humans somehow get significantly debilitated without meat? The people mentioned above are existent and haven't somehow died out because "survival of the fittest" dictates that meat must be had by humans, does it?




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#7 4 years ago

Nobody said "significantly debilitated". Vegetarian babies do not grow into retarded (not in the offensive context, merely mentally challenged people, which can be perceived as offensive too, but I don't mean it that way) adults. Several meat nutrients (because we're not only talking about protein) have to be supplemented in order for a pure vegetarian to maintain an equal level of health. I am not saying that everybody should start eating meat on a daily basis, that is also not good. Humans did evolve as omnivorous creatures, but they didn't eat meat daily (mainly because they couldn't kill an animal everyday, hunting in prehistory didn't involve guns and traps). Eating mostly vegetables is fine, as long as you supplement your diet with meat every once in a while. It's the "way of things", if I may say so. And, since vegetarianism is mostly ideological, unfertilized chicken eggs don't harm anybody, and since they exist (wild birds also lay unfertilized eggs, though admittedly less often than commercialized hens), they are a fine way of supplementing meat without killing. At least in my opinion. EDIT: To keep on point though, cats should never be subjected to vegetarianism, if your ideology forces you to feed a carnivorous pet vegetables, get a herbivorous pet or no pet at all. Because forcing a carnivorous animal to eat plants is just as cruel as killing animals to feed it. Perhaps even more so, since the carnivore would still be alive and experiencing the agony of a terrible diet....




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#8 4 years ago

Uchuujin;5740780Nobody said "significantly debilitated". Vegetarian babies do not grow into retarded (not in the offensive context, merely mentally challenged people, which can be perceived as offensive too, but I don't mean it that way) adults. Several meat nutrients (because we're not only talking about protein) have to be supplemented in order for a pure vegetarian to maintain an equal level of health. I am not saying that everybody should start eating meat on a daily basis, that is also not good. Humans did evolve as omnivorous creatures, but they didn't eat meat daily (mainly because they couldn't kill an animal everyday, hunting in prehistory didn't involve guns and traps). Eating mostly vegetables is fine, as long as you supplement your diet with meat every once in a while. It's the "way of things", if I may say so. And, since vegetarianism is mostly ideological, unfertilized chicken eggs don't harm anybody, and since they exist (wild birds also lay unfertilized eggs, though admittedly less often than commercialized hens), they are a fine way of supplementing meat without killing. At least in my opinion.

How would one supplement a fully vegetarian diet? Remember, some don't even eat eggs. I'm not saying full on vegan, but they do avoid anything (and this is just a broad classification but) with the main food being some sort of animal cell/tissue/fiber.




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#9 4 years ago

Well, they take pills with the nutrients they lack. Considering that incredibly strict (emphasis on the adverb and adjective) vegetarianism is a relatively recent thing.




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#10 4 years ago

Well then I beg to differ. Pills didn't always exist.

You may say so, but "it is not simply the way of things", that meat must be had to maintain an equal level of health. I'd look more into this if I were you but I suppose that was not the original topic.

As for a good example, yours truly. Meat consumption is privilege in my household rather than a right given the position I am in. Maybe I was lucky to be able to live in a country where meat was plentiful right after 8 months of my birth for a few years. And during some of my teenage years. But for most of my years, I sure haven't been able to have meat according to some tabulated diet plan. Hell, sometimes I've had to spend a year or 2 without any.




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