An age-old question that I thought is worthy of debate. [SIZE="1"]And yes, this is a serious thread.[/SIZE]
Faktrl is Best Pony
10th September 2007
Good question, it could go either way. I would say that yes it makes a sound, but due to the fact that no one is around to hear it, the soundwaves decrease in magnitude as the displacement increases and thus we can't hear it. Just my two cents.
"I'd shush her zephyr." ~ Zephyr.
Mister Angry Rules Guy
1st February 2010
[COLOR=orange]The falling trees, and the subsequent impacts, do still produce shock-wave vibrations, the same as a plucked string. The problem is that these vibrations need to be registered by the mechanisms inside the ear, and translated by a living brain. It is only then that these vibrations get translated into what you know to be “sound.”[/COLOR] [COLOR=orange] [/COLOR] [COLOR=orange] [/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]In short, without an ear and a living brain to translate these vibrations into “sound,” the falling tree does not actually make any “sound” of its own.[/COLOR] [COLOR=orange][/COLOR] [COLOR=orange][/COLOR] [COLOR=orange][/COLOR] [COLOR=orange][/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]On a side note, is this the correct location for this thread? It almost seems as if it should be :moved:to The Pub[/COLOR]
Yes, there is just no one close enough to be able to hear it. It will always make a sound though. Animals nearby will hear it if a person doesn't.
Unless this forest happens to exist in a vacuum, then yes, it makes a sound, regardless of who is or isn't there to hear it.
of course it makes a sound, it's like asking, If I were to chop a machete into someones next, and there was no one else around to see it, did it really happen? Of course it did.
Mihail;5401912of course it makes a sound, it's like asking, If I were to chop a machete into someones next, and there was no one else around to see it, did it really happen? Of course it did.
Um no not exactly, if the person is found dead then it is quite obvious SOMEONE chopped an axe into their head. There is no real evidence a tree makes a sound when it falls and no one is around. Just scientists being scientists, unable to look past their 'facts' much like a religious person.
Of course, duh! If you leave your engine running, and park it somewhere were nobody would hear it, it'd still make sound, same as with the tree.
Science will always say yes, but it's the philosophers (quantum philosophers, even) that'll get tripped up here. They say that something doesn't exist if we don't experience it, so this tree doesn't make a sound because no one is there to measure the sound. Or it could both be making a sound or not until someone out there goes out and takes sound measurements (quantum philosophy and wavefunctions (which lead to probabilities)).
That's why this question remains universally unanswered.
I, of course, say it does because it vibrates air molecules, which is pretty much the consensus of everyone here in this thread so far. Just wanted to throw out why someone would say "no" or "maybe."