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Kilobyte

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#1 4 years ago

A random thread topic. Something that I have been pondering over for some time.

I have been wondering about the advanced usage of indirect communication. Euphemisms, innuendo, flirting, allusions, subtlety, hints, inferences, insinuations, veiled remarks, adumbrations, reading between the lines, subtext, parables, and metaphors, etc.

Ever get the feeling that other seemingly normal individuals have somehow managed to talk over your head? Almost as if random sports trivia secretly had nothing to do with sports, and everything to do with a more important matter. Almost as if the conversation itself was encrypted as it left the speaker's mouth. This is akin to realizing that you were oblivious to a women who was flirting with you.

When interacting with certain folks, I often feel as if I am Picard attempting to communicate with Tamarians (episode 201 "Darmok"). I find I am completely unable to respond to seemingly random thoughts brought up during the conversation. Essentially I am Picard listening to Dathon on El-Adrel.

Except, unlike the Tamarians, these individuals are fully capable of communicating with basic english. When confronted they often handwave the conversation, insisting that it should be taken at face value, of course. There have been times when a random conversation, largely unrelated to the time and place, seemed to correlate with and/or mirror my own actions in their presence. However, correlation does not equal causation, and there is plausible deniability.

As much as reason would indicate that I am reading way too much into these conversations, I cannot shake the feeling that I am nearly oblivious. Almost as if there is an entire subculture of individuals who communicate in such a manner on such a regular basis, that it is almost their regular form of communication.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I suppose it may merely be my own desire to communicate primarily in such a manner.




Kilobyte

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#2 4 years ago

So its finally happened, old Kilobyte has wandered off the deep in. Lost his marbles. Flipped his lid. Somebody get him a straitjacket!

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What's behind this? Well recently, I suffered near paralysis in the precense of a very attractive woman, who talked to me, and sat beside me in class on a regular basis. (I think I have discovered the source of the Medusa myth.) I had chosen to attend this class, for the express purpose of being near this woman. So the teachers were not aware of my normal composure.

So after managing to distance myself from her, I was able to regain my composure, and begin to contribute to the class at my normal level of excellence. The difference was no doubt very noticeable.

So while occasionally looking at me, while standing near my seat in class, they began discussing a body builder who after leaving his career had a noticeable change in appearance, which they attributed to steriod use. Afterwards the former body builder was largely normal.

Steriods being male hormones, it is interesting to note the similarities, as well as discrepencies. It seems perhaps that male hormones can make one man strong, or another man weak.

I could just be overthinking things, which I do often. Serves me well with my line of work, not so much when it comes to interacting with people for the first time.




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#3 4 years ago

Bah, I don't need no arms around me! And I don't need no drugs to calm me! I have seen the writing on the wall...don't think I need anything at ALL!!!!!

NO!

Don't think I need anything at all!

All in all, it was all just bricks in the wall. All in all you were all just bricks in the wall!

Anyway. Yeah, relationships make me feel bad. I don't think I'll ever find a single woman who I can ever truly be happy with, so...yeah...just keep pursuing intellectual stimulation wherever you can find it :)

Also...um...we're here if you need us.


"I'd shush her zephyr." ~ Zephyr.



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#4 4 years ago

Kilobyte;5731080As much as reason would indicate that I am reading way too much into these conversations, I cannot shake the feeling that I am nearly oblivious. Almost as if there is an entire subculture of individuals who communicate in such a manner on such a regular basis, that it is almost their regular form of communication.[/QUOTE]

I feel like subculture is the wrong word. I know of what you speak, I once had that sort of bond with a girl (there was no romance involved), but we were very close. We'd grown up together, and had been through quite a bit together. Almost as if sharing so many experiences sort of created its own personality which we both belonged to. Not really though, but once you share so many experiences (and I think experience is the key) with someone, you tend to think and act in the same way. The problem with explaining this is as you're saying it you feel like checking yourself into a psychiatric ward because it seems like legitimate craziness. =p

I've seen it a lot in married (but loving) couples, it's like a level of understanding and communication which goes far beyond the concept of friendship.

[QUOTE=Adrian Ţepeş;5731367]BAnyway. Yeah, relationships make me feel bad. I don't think I'll ever find a single woman who I can ever truly be happy with, so...yeah...just keep pursuing intellectual stimulation wherever you can find it :)

Negativity doesn't breed positivity. =p




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#5 4 years ago

No, but it does attract it :D

Anyway, yeah, don't listen to me. You probably have a better chance at finding happiness with someone than I do.


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#6 4 years ago
Adrian Ţepeş;5731373Anyway, yeah, don't listen to me. You probably have a better chance at finding happiness with someone than I do.

Nah. I went home with a girl last night, I was starting to sober up, but she was completely sober (I guess I was like the last resort or something). We kissed for like 15 seconds and then she said "I should probably tell you I have a boyfriend."

:Puzzled::Puzzled::Puzzled:

So yeah. The first time I manage to go home with a hot girl, that happens. I think we're both in the forever alone boat. =p




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#7 4 years ago

I meant Kilobyte has a better chance than I do =p


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Kilobyte

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#8 4 years ago
Adrian Ţepeş;5731376I meant Kilobyte has a better chance than I do =p

Don't know about that. Currently stuck living with an elderly family member that hates fun. So I won't be getting any, anytime soon. :rolleyes:

My life has been one long series of setbacks.

The hot girl I mentioned above, she's single, and I've been to her house (Nothing happened, just met her dog). She's just not interested in an insecure, inexperienced, n00b like me.




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#9 4 years ago

Just bear in mind that women have a much greater 'psychopath potential' than men. If she becomes aware that she has such power over you, and discovers a need to exert such a power to her own ends, she will do it.

Read the Art of War. Best dating manual I ever read. Probably has other uses too.

I might be letting upsetting personal experiences influence my otherwise-grounded opinion, though.




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#10 4 years ago

Love is a bit like a drug, or at least it seems to be, lots of things are when you get down to it. As with most enticing things of that nature, it's probably wise to keep your relationships in a certain balance. Few people want to be your whole world, and those who do seem to be, on the whole, fairly malign personalities. Having other interests, being able to be okay on your own, or with your other friends, can make getting out of a relationship if the shit hits the fan a lot easier.

Why do you think that abusive husbands often try to stop their wives from having other friends? Is it because they think she's going to sleep with them? Well, that's probably a part of it - at least when it comes to male friends. But another part of it is that those friends might provide a way out.




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