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#1 11 years ago

[COLOR=darkred]Ok, i live in america. Was born in America and all my life ive been hearing, "the most powerful man in the world, the president of the United States." And i was wondering what people from other Countries thought about the presidency in America, do you think its a joke? Or do you agree that he is the most powerful man in the world?[/COLOR]




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#2 11 years ago

This is an interesting question simply because you know it will separate people into 3, easily distinguishable categories.

1. Hardcore uneducated Americans who believe that it is but do not have any facts to back up their claim. 2. Hardcore Not-Americans who may even go so far as to agree, but will waste no time in degrading the thread into "America is terrible! I do not like it and I am posting here to show you that I would like to combat anyone who would make an assertion that America is a good place!"

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3. People who will tell you that this question is overly simplified, and that it is unfair to call the President the most powerful man in the world.

Really it's all about the definition of powerful; The Russian Federation has a larger stockpile of nuclear weapons at it's disposal than the United States, so theoretically the leader of Russia would have more capability to destroy the world (A couple hundred times over), Perhaps the leader of China is the most powerful, being as he could certainly do a great bit of destroying America's economy (At the expense of his own, perhaps) if he set his mind to it.

Power is very open to interpretation, and as such I don't think you could give that title to anyone on the planet, quite frankly.




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#3 11 years ago

[COLOR=darkred]Maybe not the word powerful, im thinking "influential" might be a better word to describe what im asking. Also I do see now that my question is way over simplified.[/COLOR]




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#4 11 years ago

Well influential just depends on who that president is. Any president can be influential with... a world class military that they can send to forward their personal opinions on the far reaches of the globe, on the other hand this will also influence others to think negatively towards him.

Depending on the individual's personal character however is how he uses that potential, Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Abraham Lincoln were and are still extremely influential because they made smart decisions that made people think they knew what was going on. Even so they will only be influential for very long if they really show their worth; I can guarantee you most Americans know more about John Lennon, Elvis or Edgar Allan Poe than they do about Gerald Ford or James Polk.

In an immediate sense you could 'say' presidents are the most powerful individual people on the planet, since they have the ability to make so many changes. But that doesn't mean they're really reaping that potential, as for the most part they put a lot of the potential abilities they have upon others.




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#5 11 years ago

USA has more nukes than Russia. I dont know where your getting your facts from. Russia is weak, their submarine fleet is a fraction of what it use to be and their subs are largely inferior. They likely have no carriers, their surface fleet has always been smaller than the US'.

But the President of the US has never been the most powerful person on earth. As long as the US a democracy the President can't get shit done without the support of the Senate or Congress or w/e. The most powerful man on earth is either the richest or the dictator of the strongest country. Because that single man can get things done just like that, no time wasted on voting, the President needs the majority vote to get something done.




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#6 11 years ago

Well it sort of comes from the idea that the President can make people do what he wants them to do. For example, Bush was able to twist enough arms to get the United States' allies to help in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, even though said allies hardly had anything to do with the situation to begin with.

And how the President is not only the head of state but also the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. It's completely constitutional because he is a civilian is in charge of the military. He can declare war and do a lot of other military actions without any approval whatsoever. And if you can control the military, you can control anything. Because who's going to stop you?

If I remember correctly, President Theodore Roosevelt exercised this power with the Great White Fleet tour around the world. Congress didn't want him to do it, so he basically told them off by saying "okay, fine, the entire fleet is going to be stuck halfway around the world without anything to do." Seriously. And Congress couldn't do anything because the President is the goddamn commander-in-chief of the armed forces. Just like Bam Margera, the President can do whatever the fuck he wants. So to speak.




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#7 11 years ago

Both Iraq and Afghanistan were Co-Invasions, you know that right? USA, UK, Australia.




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#8 11 years ago
gravy666;5225664Well it sort of comes from the idea that the President can make people do what he wants them to do. For example, Bush was able to twist enough arms to get the United States' allies to help in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, even though said allies hardly had anything to do with the situation to begin with.

:lies:[COLOR=darkred] jk, that is really true[/COLOR].




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#9 11 years ago

The president is only as influential as other leaders allow him to be. They don't have to listen to him whine about the enrichment of uranium. Iran doesn't give a crap about what Obama says or any sanctions, they'll do whatever they want. In the end, military power is what any influence can probably come down to.




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#10 11 years ago

Destroyer25;5225652But the President of the US has never been the most powerful person on earth. As long as the US a democracy the President can't get shit done without the support of the Senate or Congress or w/e. [/QUOTE] He can START something (aka Iraq War) without congressional approval, in theory if he doesnt have it within 90 days he has to cease. He can also order nuclear strikes.

So, I'd say he has quite alot of power, but its supposed to be constantly in check.

[QUOTE=Crazy Wolf;5225008] the President needs the majority vote to get something done.

Again, in theory, for sustainable purposes.