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#1 11 years ago

Cops: Mom forces son to kill hamster for bad grade | ajc.com This is why I think you need a license to be a parent.




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#2 11 years ago

That's just discusting, what a dumb bitch. That kid is now scarred for life.




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#3 11 years ago

wtf? Why not just take the hamster away?




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#4 11 years ago

I don't really get the big deal, sure it was a bit of a dick move but it's just a hamster - I fed similar animals to snakes for years and there was no outcry about that. The destruction of something he loved? I doubt we'd be having this discussion if she'd made him hammer his 360. Violence of the thing? I've never really been ideologically opposed to violence as long as it's in the right contexts.




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#5 11 years ago
Nemmerle;5227281I don't really get the big deal, sure it was a bit of a dick move but it's just a hamster - I fed similar animals to snakes for years and there was no outcry about that. The destruction of something he loved? I doubt we'd be having this discussion if she'd made him hammer his 360. Violence of the thing? I've never really been ideologically opposed to violence as long as it's in the right contexts.

I'd think forcing the kid to kill a living creature that he loved could have some negative psychological impact on him. I mean, it can be traumatizing to even have to witness an pet die, let alone being the one to kill it. Though the kid is old enough that he might not be permanently scared, it certainly isn't going to do anything to help his development.




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#6 11 years ago

Saw this in the newspaper a week or so back.

Pissed me the fuck off.




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#7 11 years ago
Nemmerle;5227281I don't really get the big deal, sure it was a bit of a dick move but it's just a hamster - I fed similar animals to snakes for years and there was no outcry about that. The destruction of something he loved? I doubt we'd be having this discussion if she'd made him hammer his 360. Violence of the thing? I've never really been ideologically opposed to violence as long as it's in the right contexts.

In this case, the hamster was not food for a beloved pet snake, it was his beloved pet. And as someone who has pets, let me tell you, they're not possessions like an Xbox 360; they're like family members to us. Imagine if you had just had a child, but due to your poor performance at work, your boss forces you to murder your newborn. That's a bit extreme, but there are parallels. Besides, he was forced to kill his hamster with a hammer - a particularly brutal and painful way of going about it. It may not have been as bad (still terrible, yes) if it had been done in a more humane, quick and painless way.

Violence in the right context is great, but this is definitely the wrong context.




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#8 11 years ago
Afterburner;5227286I'd think forcing the kid to kill a living creature that he loved could have some negative psychological impact on him. I mean, it can be traumatizing to even have to witness an pet die, let alone being the one to kill it. Though the kid is old enough that he might not be permanently scared, it certainly isn't going to do anything to help his development.

What does that even mean, permanently scarred? I mean it sounds good but it’s not very descriptive. The permanent bit, sure, all experiences are unless you get that part of memory overwritten. Balanceable by other experiences, sure, but permanent nonetheless. But the scar bit, in what way – when does something cease to be just an emotional change and become a scar... Will he be unable to form loving relationships; what are we talking about here?

Your dad cuts his name into your back with a scalpel, rapes you; you're a child prostitute in this sort of situation; that sort of thing I might attach the labels of trauma and scars to. And even those people can go on to live relatively normal lives. This is just unpleasant; but I've never believed life was otherwise or that childhood should reflect such a fantasy.




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#9 11 years ago

Awful! :O

I wont be surprised when it turns out that the kid has expierenced a whole lot of other cruel things, and now has some complex or depression. I kinda agree with Zam, but i would be furious/depressed/raged/sad if they made me smash my 360 or PC.




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#10 11 years ago
Nemmerle;5227281I don't really get the big deal, sure it was a bit of a dick move but it's just a hamster - I fed similar animals to snakes for years and there was no outcry about that. The destruction of something he loved? I doubt we'd be having this discussion if she'd made him hammer his 360. Violence of the thing? I've never really been ideologically opposed to violence as long as it's in the right contexts.

The problem is, I doubt the boy will be taking such a dispassionate philosophical view of being made to brutally kill his own pet. You can't really dissect the individual aspects of this - no-one but the kid is crying over a dead hamster - it's the combination of factors seen from the point of view of the person who was put through the experience that matters. I personally would think somebody was a nutcase if they made their child take a hammer to their games console (which can't compare psychologically to killing any living creature, let alone a pet, in such a brutal manner). Because it is clearly just an act of cruelty with no purpose other than to satiate the mother's own anger and violence. I very much doubt the kid's grades are going to improve because of it. All that he gets is a sense of the world's cruelty before he is mature enough to engage with this reality, and a drastically affected perspective on violence and parental discipline that he may then pass on to his own children.