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#21 11 years ago
CherryBlossom;4234146Both S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s and Speer's punishment is really good. I think some people tends to rape other women because they like the pleasure of doing that.

Of course it is to gratify there actions with pleasure, if the result was not pleasurable they would not do it. In most cases, no?

The thing is that ...well ya know. IT is as you say something that society knows needs punishing .It is not a case of do as you feel without having consequences there are obvious consequence and also the prescence of law.




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#22 11 years ago

Rape? The most digusting thing a human mind can think up.

My fitting punishment would ideally be to destroy the rapists soul, but failing that, injecting acid into his penis would be good enough :)

And there's no let off, you don't rape by accident, you can kill by accident, hell in self defence even, but not rape.

Unless of course she's lying. But that's hard, forensics would show that up.




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#23 11 years ago

What's with the obsessions with complicated punishments? I'm a fan of life imprisonment, providing that it isn't 100% absolutely certain they did it (they confessed and DNA evidence proves it and videotape, etc.), they could not be guilty. Torturing innocent people seems like something we should avoid. If that 100% certain they are guilty thing comes up, send them to prison, but hogtied and without any pants. Eye for an eye, anyone?




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#24 11 years ago

What's wrong with torture? You americans love it.

Just look at iraq :)




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#25 11 years ago

Ah I remember at my middle school what happened. People brought guns, sold drugs...yeah.




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#26 11 years ago

captaindeadman;4234197Rape? The most digusting thing a human mind can think up.[/QUOTE]

I can think of a fair sight worse to be honest.

captaindeadman;4234197And there's no let off, you don't rape by accident, you can kill by accident, hell in self defence even, but not rape.

Statutory rape where one party is unaware of the other’s age, etc.

[QUOTE=captaindeadman;4234197]Unless of course she's lying. But that's hard, forensics would show that up.

Not necesarily, there are a host of excuses someone can make for not having a standard set of forensic evidence, and even more ways someone can create that evidence without the act.




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#27 11 years ago
Nemmerle;4235528I can think of a fair sight worse to be honest.

List it?

I've had this arguement before, IMO, rape is the worst form of torture, not including prolonged abuse, but that's not a single crime, but an array, so I was discounting that.

Whilst murder is bad, yes, and in many ways is the worst thing that can happen to a human, the fact you don't live dismisses suffering, so that's why I believe rape is worse. Murder is total annihilation of the person, rape is destruction of that persons 'soul' in some ways, whilst leaving the mind to live.

That's not, of course, to say that being killed is preferable to being raped. It just simply says that, mentally, rape is worse because of the torture involved.

That said, I don't doubt most people would choose rape over murder if they ever had to make such a macabre choice.

Statutory rape where one party is unaware of the other’s age, etc.

Sleeping with someone who's underage, whilst technically rape, isn't prosecuted over very often, as long as the underaged person is shown to be sufficiently mature, and there's nothing to suggest that the legal person knew prior to intercourse. Plus this includes 16 year olds sleeping with 15 year old (for example) which isn't rape.

However, if the underaged person has been groomed/lead into sex by an older person, that is seen as rape, because the younger person is deemed to be too immature to make decisions regarding sex, which, having studied teenage minds, I must agree with.

Not necesarily, there are a host of excuses someone can make for not having a standard set of forensic evidence, and even more ways someone can create that evidence without the act.

Most rapes involve a struggle, that's hard to fake, you can't fake injuries on your own wrists right. So unless the guys got his arms on backwards, that'd be pretty compelling.

Plus she's either got sign of sex, or hasn't. Whilst that alone isn't enough, I agree, it's enough to know whether the guy slept with her, and that combined with corresponding inuries makes for a pretty good case.

I say her, although the victim could equally be male, and I wanted to just point that out.




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#28 11 years ago

captaindeadman;4235608List it?

I've had this arguement before, IMO, rape is the worst form of torture, not including prolonged abuse, but that's not a single crime, but an array, so I was discounting that.

Whilst murder is bad, yes, and in many ways is the worst thing that can happen to a human, the fact you don't live dismisses suffering, so that's why I believe rape is worse. Murder is total annihilation of the person, rape is destruction of that persons 'soul' in some ways, whilst leaving the mind to live.

How about female circumcision? A lot of Islamic girls around the age of 7 (I believe) get circumcised against their own will. Often without any proper sedatives.

Not only is it an extreme form of physical pain, seeing as your genitalia are one of the most sensitive areas of a human's body, but it's also a terrible moral burden that haunts these girls for the rest of their lives.


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#29 11 years ago

Sovereign002;4235640How about female circumcision? A lot of Islamic girls around the age of 7 (I believe) get circumcised against their own will. Often without any proper sedatives.

Not only is it an extreme form of physical pain, seeing as your genitalia are one of the most sensitive areas of a human's body, but it's also a terrible moral burden that haunts these girls for the rest of their lives.

Hmm, yea I guess I hadn't thought of that.

But, unlike rape, they know it's coming and knowing what'll happen tends to lessen such pain.

You don't plan to be raped on a certain day, by a certain person.

But a very good point, and it's nasty what they do..and pointless. Dolts.




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#30 11 years ago

That was actually just the first thing I could come up with, there are bound to be a lot of other painful things that can happen to a human body, both physically and mentally.

Sure, rape is unexpected, but doesn't the fact that you know you'll be hurt add to the torture? Imagine that someone suddenly shoots you in your kneecap. It will hurt like hell. Now imagine that same person warning you he will shoot you in the kneecap first and there's nothing you can do to stop him (you're tied to a chair, for instance).


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