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#1 9 months ago

Took one of those career aptitude/personality tests while I had some free time and well...Jesus...I mean, when you phrase it like that... :[


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"Moody, not good at sports, low energy level, unable to speak up for self, avoidant, depressed, withdrawn, attracted to things associated with sadness, easily frightened, feels defective, lonely, no self confidence, easily discouraged, avoids crowds, backs down when threatened, easily intimidated, socially unskilled, loner, unproductive, late with work, prone to health problems, focuses on fantasies more than reality, self loathing, wounded at the core, easily hurt, often sad, becomes overwhelmed by events, fearful, rarely prepared, fears doing the wrong thing, often aware how the color and lighting of a room affects their mood, feels untalented, quiet around strangers, prone to addiction, doubting, anxious, easily confused, frequently overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, weak sense of purpose, relates to broken and discarded things, unsure where life is going, continually losing things, fears drawing attention to self, avoids unnecessary interaction, often bored, second guesses self, embarrassed by praise, worrying, resigned, prone to jealousy."


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#2 9 months ago

Always found these test amusing since they are so full of bullshit.


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#3 9 months ago

True.  No real test of anything is going to determine your life story in 15 questions, but I'm totally directionless, and so I take them quite often.


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#4 9 months ago

They are almost as bad as horoscopes.


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#5 9 months ago


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#6 9 months ago

To be fair, I glanced at the first couple lines of about 7 of the descriptions in the list on that site, about 6 of them were pretty dismal and one of them was maybe positive. I must say I can relate to a good number of the items on your given personality. I have to wonder if the majority of those things are more issues with upbringing than hard-coded personality traits that you'd have to work hard to overcome no matter how you were brought up. My guess is that it's a lot of the former and a little of the latter.

I took some random online test for people with "functional autism" yesterday, and I was quite a few points into the probably autistic region. But then, people have only begun to be diagnosed with milder forms of autism fairly recently. I guess it's helpful to know that I might be autistic so that I can develop strategies to cope and pretend to be "normal" with a slightly autistic brain. Or alternatively I can embrace the label and let it define and mold me into what I think the term means. But otherwise it's just a recently developed label. The condition doesn't define me (unless I let it), but it may provide an easy word to partially describe me. At the end of the day, all these qualifiers are simply words which kinda sort of group people into different categories, but the transitions between categories, and the extremeness within categories, is a gradient.

As for the accuracy of personality tests, there's plenty of controversy over that. Moreover, the accuracy of a given test over another is just as controversial. It seems to me that if enough people take a given test, then being categorized into one group or another would make you more similar to someone else who tested to be your personality than someone who tested to be in a polar opposite personality group. Like, pretty much every test ever asks something like "do you like to be the center of attention at a party", and if your answer is "hell no", then it seems more likely than not that you're going to have more in common (in terms of attention-whoring) with another guy who hates attention than with someone who got into break-dancing for the  purpose of garnering attention at parties.

Following this example, how much attention you like having on yourself might be intrinsically  related to your confidence/self-esteem, or it might not. There's also the issue of being able to objectively answer related questions. A lot of these tests very obviously use multiple similar questions as a cumulative measure of personality trait "X" and so I think it'd be easy to influence where you ended up if you actually wanted to, or if you were delusional. The notion that you can't fool the test is complete bullshit IMO. And then there's the issue of having questions that you have no introspective ability to answer. Like, for example, the question "how organized are you when you travel?" may very well be something you can't objectively answer because you've literally never organized a trip before. And then you have to go full RPG on the question and imagine what you'd do, which is probably completely different from what you'd actually do. Or it might be situational, dependent on whether you have 30 minutes to plan and pack vs.  having 2 weeks to do so. So yeah, take those tests with a healthy portion of salt.




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#7 9 months ago

You thrown enough terms and generalities out and people are bound to hit some of them.


That's why these things are never specific.


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#8 9 months ago
Posted by Adrian Ţepeş

Took one of those career aptitude/personality tests while I had some free time and well...Jesus...I mean, when you phrase it like that... :[


Type RLUAI:  

"Moody, not good at sports, low energy level, unable to speak up for self, avoidant, depressed, withdrawn, attracted to things associated with sadness, easily frightened, feels defective, lonely, no self confidence, easily discouraged, avoids crowds, backs down when threatened, easily intimidated, socially unskilled, loner, unproductive, late with work, prone to health problems, focuses on fantasies more than reality, self loathing, wounded at the core, easily hurt, often sad, becomes overwhelmed by events, fearful, rarely prepared, fears doing the wrong thing, often aware how the color and lighting of a room affects their mood, feels untalented, quiet around strangers, prone to addiction, doubting, anxious, easily confused, frequently overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, weak sense of purpose, relates to broken and discarded things, unsure where life is going, continually losing things, fears drawing attention to self, avoids unnecessary interaction, often bored, second guesses self, embarrassed by praise, worrying, resigned, prone to jealousy."


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Okay, let's do information theory 101: 

The value of any piece of information is based on two things:

  • What it tells you that you don't already believe is true
  • The consequences of what you would do differently if you were wrong in your current beliefs

If something just confirms what you already believe, you'd act based on that information in the same way as you would have before, and consequently the value of having that information is zero*. There's no profit to be had in confirming low self-esteem. (Past a point. If people were running stats engines in the back of their heads they'd modify their investment in particular behaviours according to how strongly they believed them - but that's... not entirely how people actually behave.)

So, phrased another way: What in that answer surprises you? That's the value of taking these tests. If there's no surprise, there's no value.

And that value isn't necessarily well contextualised truth, that's worth taking note of as well. Depending on the validity of the test, that which surprises you might be something worth looking into. However, even in the best case you're looking into a distorted mirror made up of stats and seeing whether there's anything in there that, looked at from a certain angle, is worth exploring by implementing different behaviours.

(With respect to the last, this particular test seems to function by picking out the indicators where you varied most from the average scoring, it's not surprising therefore that there would be a negative slew to some of the types. People can be broken in many more ways than they can be whole with respect to personality descriptors. If your basis for differentiation is health, the world comes to look very much like a sickroom.)

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* And if that's not the first thing they tell you when you get to college, it damn well should be ¬_¬




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#9 9 months ago

I did one ages ago, turns out I was a super rare one.


Did it affect my daily life? Nope.


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