Philosophical Ramblings of a Drunken Teenager 13 replies

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Sh0wdowN

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#11 12 years ago

Knives;3850391[SIZE="1"]I don't agree with what you wrote because I don't think life can be put into only two categories. There's so much more to life then having children or achieving a goal. What is someone to do when they're children are grow up and having their own or once they've achieved their goal? Should they just sit back and wait for death? What about all the people who die before they have children or have a goal, was their life a waste?

Isn't the meaning of life the ultimate question that everyone's been asking since the dawn of time?

Sorry, I guess I answered your question with more questions. [/SIZE]

Most people dislike giving peoples' lives value so that their own life's worth is something you can compare to others', but, still - to answer your first question, yes. People who do not impact the world have led a useless life.

But still, people who only have children have led a life that's about just as useless - unless you make a drastic impact upon the world, your life has been useless. For instance, if you have kids, it's still a waste, since, 3-4 generations ahead, no one will remember you. You'll be forgotten, you'll just end up being another gravestone in an overcrowded cemetary. Change the world and your life will'ave meant something.

You may argue that you change the world by having kids, but, really, how big an impact will it have? Even if you died and didn't have kids the world would go on unchanged. Even if you had kids before you died the world would still go on. It's the nature of life. Seeing as mostly everyone's existance is insignificant, it's also what makes life go around, so you could think that while you're part of a system, the system wouldn't exist without you.

Of course the last part is just something to make you feel better about yourself, since your life really didn't matter in the first place.

But, yeah, to get to my next point, if you change the world, you'll be remembered, and that's all you'll get, since, well you're gonna die to. And even though you would achieve the only form of immortalization available to us (for now, at least) - having your name embedded into history - it still wouldn't matter as when you're dead, you won't get to enjoy that privilege of being remembered. Which also brings me to my next question, if being remembered makes your life useless, and not being remembered makes your life useless, then what makes your life worthwhile?

Actually, I was gonna act cool here and end this by writing 'You.', but I changed my mind and I'm gonna go with immortality/eternal youth (which has been my conclusion to this question for years). If you don't have immortality/eternal youth, then you're gonna die and your existence will be forgotten.




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#12 12 years ago

Everything you achieve is eventually going to turn to dust, be it children or a goal, time will destroy every mark that you ever existed and your life will have been a waste. Do what you want to do in life, even if it's not world shattering, even if it doesn't leave a mark - if you're not being true to what you want then there's very little left to live for.




Ryette

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#13 12 years ago
Sh0wdowN;3851939Most people dislike giving peoples' lives value so that their own life's worth is something you can compare to others', but, still - to answer your first question, yes. People who do not impact the world have led a useless life.

It's almost impossible to impact the entire world. It's the smaller impacts that count, the impacts on individuals or on small groups.

Of course the last part is just something to make you feel better about yourself, since your life really didn't matter in the first place.

Everyone's life is significant, whether that significance lies in the negative or the positive. Even if you happened to fail at impacting the entire world, and did indeed become just another grave in the cemetery, it doesn't necessarily make your life a complete waste.

But, yeah, to get to my next point, if you change the world, you'll be remembered, and that's all you'll get, since, well you're gonna die to. And even though you would achieve the only form of immortalization available to us (for now, at least) - having your name embedded into history - it still wouldn't matter as when you're dead, you won't get to enjoy that privilege of being remembered. Which also brings me to my next question, if being remembered makes your life useless, and not being remembered makes your life useless, then what makes your life worthwhile?

Eternal remembrance isn't the only way to give an individual's life meaning. Working solely to give your own life meaning is more counterproductive than anything. As I said earlier, it's the smaller impacts that count. Trying to find some greater purpose to elevate yourself to historical celebrity status is selfish and not at all in tune with humankind. Contributions in life should go to the society, to gain true purpose, rather than focusing on achieving greatness.

Point is, I suppose, is that most individuals aren't capable of impacting the world on their own, but that alone doesn't make them a worthless being.




Maeko

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#14 12 years ago

If you want to give your life meaning then you shouldn't waste it trying to give your life meaning. Once you are dead no one is going to talk about how you made yourself such a great person, but how you helped others.

You people are saying that the only way to be remember or immortalized is to change the world, which could not be more wrong. The world was more than perfect before we came and fucked it up. The only thing we can hope to do is affect the people on this world. The world itself will not remember you. Like bob said in the original post you should live to love. If you do that then what do you honestly have to worry about? If all you care about is making sure the one(s) you love is taken care of what more in life could you possibly want? My thoughts would be that your only desire would be to make life easier for them, and that would your driving force. Life should be lived for what you love, not yourself.

P.S. Bob very good stuff :)




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