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Danny Über Admin

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#1 8 years ago

Personally I've never really used Digg too much, but, having read this article, it makes you wonder.

It seems large groups of conservatives are co-ordinating efforts to "bury" any progressive articles posted on Digg, making it impossible for progressive news stories or certain users to ever get onto the front page, making it more likely for conservative stories to make it to the front page. :uhm:

And apparently they have around a 90% success rate.

In any case, without getting into the politics of it, it does kinda prove that Digg's model doesn't really work. If it's being abused as badly as the article claims, than it seems to me the entire point of the site has become void. It simply becomes like any other news or media outlet, biased to the majority opinion of whoever runs it, or in this case, has gathered the most control.

Although, I wonder if there are any liberal groups that do the same thing? It seems that on both the far left and the far right, nobody wants to debate, but rather want to push their opinion on everyone else.


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#2 8 years ago

Politics, politics, politics. If it was legal, we could just throw the politicians into a gladiatorial arena and watch them fight it out. Instant best selling show of the century. Not only is this a stupid thing to do, but it's silly and childish. "Patriots" my ass. They're no more patriotic than a chimpanzee protecting his tree against imaginary threats. And though I don't like Digg as it is, I don't mind it being there either. Occasionally it's good for finding some interesting articles that would otherwise go unnoticed. But then this kind of stuff happens, and you're no longer able to actually trust what you read to be the truth.




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#3 8 years ago

This has been going on for years that I know of, and therefore at least a year longer than that.

There are groups which I shall not name which claim to be able to get your page onto the front page of Digg through upvoting/downvoting, at a price. When you can already pay for your article to be on the front page, it makes little sense to be shocked that there might be groups using the same idea for a political agenda.

I haven't felt a need to go to Digg in some years anyway, possibly never, so it's hard for me to get worked up about someone abusing it. Nonetheless, this issue appears in any voter model. It's the online equivalent of voter fraud and nowhere close to being as serious. Fortunately, it doesn't stop you reading the articles, it just makes them a lot harder to find.

And it's still better than the Slashdot model, if anyone remembers that. They had a "Firehose" that let you upvote/downvote stories that might appear on the front page, but only if the editors saw a way to either promote Linux or bash Windows through it. No wonder it flopped...




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#4 8 years ago

Yeah, as Sheep pointed out, this sort of thing is bound to happen when you have any sort of media site that bases its visible content on how many upvotes and downvotes it gets. There will always be groups that will twist the original purpose of the system to have it be more favorable towards their own, say, propaganda...

It's very unfortunate, but that's the way it goes. I have never once gone out of my way to visit Digg, so this doesn't really affect me at all. However, I would definitely agree that some sort of revision has long since been due, to possibly restore some shred of credibility to Digg.




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#5 8 years ago

I only use it for funny images.

And that's once a week, all the others are shite.




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#6 8 years ago

Not surprising and I doubt it is only conservatives doing it. I mean, in the United States there was recently a scandal about the discovery of a forum run by progressive journalists (some real newspaper writing journalists) where they discussed coordinating news articles against conservatives.

Perhaps conservatives are better at these things though. The right seems to hold together better than the left. I mean, just look at any liberal democratic country's list of political parties, the vast majority of them are almost always left-leaning while there are only a handful of right-leaning ones.


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#7 8 years ago

Red Menace;5373293Not surprising and I doubt it is only conservatives doing it. I mean, in the United States there was recently a scandal about the discovery of a forum run by progressive journalists (some real newspaper writing journalists) where they discussed coordinating news articles against conservatives.

Perhaps conservatives are better at these things though. The right seems to hold together better than the left. I mean, just look at any liberal democratic country's list of political parties, the vast majority of them are almost always left-leaning while there are only a handful of right-leaning ones.

That might be because being "progressive" still allows you to have a ton of different opinions, rather then if you are "conservative" the options seem pretty much limited to keeping or returning to how things used to be. Which seems to limit the array to parties that are either liberal economist, conservative social, preehing some religion (christain democrat) and/or nationalistic. Or some combination of those.




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#8 8 years ago

Okay, is it the same on Reddit?




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#9 8 years ago
Zedo Mann;5374860Okay, is it the same on Reddit?

I don't think it's popular enough to be a target for that type of subversive work.




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#10 8 years ago
Mihail;5374919I don't think it's popular enough to be a target for that type of subversive work.

Okay, lets all hang out under the radar at Reddit.




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