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#1 7 years ago

I have a few questions regarding higher education abroad but I think there will be only any point in me asking if you guys, first of all, know a few things. Then only will I continue the discussion.

For starters, is anybody here familiar with the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) or at least knows somebody who has a history with it (along with their history :D )?




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#2 7 years ago

Yeah, just ask Killer Kyle or Sh0wd0wn.


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#3 7 years ago

If you're from another country trying to go to the states you need to concentrate a lot on passing the English proficiency hurdles. I talked to a German guy who didn't get into school in the states because of that. What's weird is he was perfectly fluent, but got borked by his vocab exam scores. You might have to take a toefl test or whatever it's called too.




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#4 7 years ago

Thanks for the mention, however I pursued my degree in the UK so I wasn't required to take the GRE, so I can be of little help other than to say it's a crappy standardized test that doesn't show much (IMHO)

Also, I thought the GRE was for *graduate* programs, as in post-bachelor. Do you have to take it even for application to bachelor programs?




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#5 7 years ago

Nerp. If he's talking about Bachelors, then PDS is right about the TOEFL. But yeah, GRE is only if you're going for your Master's or Doctorate.


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#6 7 years ago

The GRE is just an advanced version of the SAT. Not a difficult test, but I recommend taking it written.

What exactly do you want to know about it?




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#7 7 years ago
Professor Dr. Scientist;5586714If you're from another country trying to go to the states you need to concentrate a lot on passing the English proficiency hurdles. I talked to a German guy who didn't get into school in the states because of that. What's weird is he was perfectly fluent, but got borked by his vocab exam scores. You might have to take a toefl test or whatever it's called too.

I'll keep that in mind but I don't really think it's going to be much of an issue. Minor Grammar and a few other things aside, I usually am able to get my point across to other English speakers of equal or greater proficiency without seeming like a dumbass.

Crappy or no, would you guys happen to know how much value the GRE holds when applying to US, Canada, select places in Europe, etc., along with my grades and project work? Like what's the distribution between all these? And what would be the prerequisites in each of these and other required fields?

I'm currently getting my degree in Bachelor of Electronics and Communications Engg. here in India. I'd like to pursue a Master's degree in either this field or a Physics oriented field (as in semiconductor physics or something like particle physics), if I could in an ivy league institute. But hey isn't that everybody's dream. So I'll just go a bit lower and say an institute that is quite reputable even if not an ivy league institute.

I have a dream of becoming a great physicist someday. India isn't really the best place for that given that everybody here is concerned about themselves and just how fat they can get throughout their entire life span. And as a secondary side effect of that everywhere you go in India there's always a fucking huge shit storm (literally sometimes given the amount of various turds I have to see all over the fucking place every fucking day) and you can never find true peace and I'd like to settle elsewhere. Somewhere, where I can find "true peace". Sounds sappy, but that's the best way I can think of describing it.

Thing is, first of all, I am a native Indian with an Indian passport so I don't really have any other country to live in unless I, as I can best see it and put it, make myself worthy of living in their country.

Furthermore, I'm not really scoring very well so I'd just rather know now if I'd be eligible anywhere that's somewhere that somebody would actually give a (relatively) big fuck about and where I can actually pursue my dreams. Or if I should just give up, suck it up and live a mediocre life in this shit pile LIKE A BAWSS.




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#8 7 years ago

random_soldier1337;5586777I'll keep that in mind but I don't really think it's going to be much of an issue. Minor Grammar and a few other things aside, I usually am able to get my point across to other English speakers of equal or greater proficiency without seeming like a dumbass.

Crappy or no, would you guys happen to know how much value the GRE holds when applying to US, Canada, select places in Europe, etc., along with my grades and project work? Like what's the distribution between all these? And what would be the prerequisites in each of these and other required fields?

I'm currently getting my degree in Bachelor of Electronics and Communications Engg. here in India. I'd like to pursue a Master's degree in either this field or a Physics oriented field (as in semiconductor physics or something like particle physics), if I could in an ivy league institute. But hey isn't that everybody's dream. So I'll just go a bit lower and say an institute that is quite reputable even if not an ivy league institute...

Although the admissions standards are quite high, look at Caltech (California Institute of Technology), MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), Stanford, UC (University of California) Berkeley, UC Los Angeles, University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), as well as outside of the United States. Take a look at this link, if you're really interested in semiconductor research. Some of the names listed are not universities (they are other research centers), but most of them are. "Ivy League" refers to schools grouped together in an old sports association. Although they tend to be very good schools, they are not always the cutting edge, especially in matters of scientific research. The University of California system, Caltech, MIT, and UIC tend to dominate the really cool research stuff.

I have a dream of becoming a great physicist someday. India isn't really the best place for that given that everybody here is concerned about themselves and just how fat they can get throughout their entire life span. And as a secondary side effect of that everywhere you go in India there's always a fucking huge shit storm (literally sometimes given the amount of various turds I have to see all over the fucking place every fucking day) and you can never find true peace and I'd like to settle elsewhere. Somewhere, where I can find "true peace". Sounds sappy, but that's the best way I can think of describing it.

And to solve that, you're thinking of going to the USA?

Thing is, first of all, I am a native Indian with an Indian passport so I don't really have any other country to live in unless I, as I can best see it and put it, make myself worthy of living in their country.

Being a student is absolutely the easiest way of living in another country for a while legally.

Furthermore, I'm not really scoring very well so I'd just rather know now if I'd be eligible anywhere that's somewhere that somebody would actually give a (relatively) big fuck about and where I can actually pursue my dreams. Or if I should just give up, suck it up and live a mediocre life in this shit pile LIKE A BAWSS.

Schools like having international students. You might not get into your first choice, or your tenth choice. But there are plenty of options available to you.




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#9 7 years ago

Crazy Wolf;5586786Although the admissions standards are quite high, look at Caltech (California Institute of Technology), MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), Stanford, UC (University of California) Berkeley, UC Los Angeles, University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), as well as outside of the United States. Take a look at this link, if you're really interested in semiconductor research. Some of the names listed are not universities (they are other research centers), but most of them are. "Ivy League" refers to schools grouped together in an old sports association. Although they tend to be very good schools, they are not always the cutting edge, especially in matters of scientific research. The University of California system, Caltech, MIT, and UIC tend to dominate the really cool research stuff.[/QUOTE]

Well, I thank you for that link and you're advice on "Ivy league" institutes.

Crazy Wolf;5586786And to solve that, you're thinking of going to the USA?

Being a student is absolutely the easiest way of living in another country for a while legally.

The way I had worded my previous post I knew there were probably going to be a lot of comments about the moral and ethical implications of my intentions as well as to what I should and shouldn't expect.

It truly is my humble request that you please just answer the questions I am asking, but on the off chance that you and others decide to persist, I'd just like to say, "Why don't you take a seat right over there?" Or how about here in India?

[QUOTE=Crazy Wolf;5586786]Schools like having international students. You might not get into your first choice, or your tenth choice. But there are plenty of options available to you.

I'll think about that. Still I want to get into somewhere which people have actually heard (and possibly praise) worldwide...




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#10 7 years ago

If you're that serious about going into physics, in particular particle physics but any semi-related field, if you want to give me some more information about where your interests lie and what country you're looking to study in I can provide advice on institutes.

Some general advice though:

When it comes to research based post-graduate work there is no "Ivy League" reputation (at least in a field like the sub-divisions of Physics). What counts is the research reputation of the institute in *that* field.

Basically there are two reasons one might want to do post-graduate research:

  1. To improve one's CV for future employment
  2. To go into academia as a researcher as a career

If you are looking at 1) then I advise you to work on getting into an institute with the best *general* international reputation that you are able to (as ultimately this is what looks the most impressive on a CV).

If you're aiming for 2), which it sounds like you might be, you need to do more research into the reputations within the sub-fields of each of the institutes. So, for example, MIT and Harvard are both highly regarded institutes with Harvard having a marginally better international reputation. However, within the sub-field of experimental particle physics MIT has a much better reputation than Harvard (as does, for instance, UCSB a much less internationally well known institute).

In short, don't concentrate too much on the general reputation of a research institute if you're genuinely looking to get into academia.




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