Ok, I want to get into sniping at the gun range, not competitively or anything (At least not yet) and I want to know what a good rifle for that would be? I don't want some wimpy ass little .22 peashooter, I want something that has kick to it, but it doesn't need to be a .50 cal or anything crazy. Something with a deep BOOOM to it and decent range. In any case, I'll probably shoot the gun before I buy it, I'll look through the local gun range's consignment guns and used ones which I can shoot before I buy.
How much do decent scopes go for (New or Used, and does it matter if I buy a used one or something?) and what exactly should I look for in a gun that could be wrong? I know basics about guns and all, but I don't know the stuff like taking them apart or anything like that, so any advice would be really appreciated by anyone here knowledgeable in the gun field.
A Sako TRG-42 would be pretty nice, if you can afford it, a scope and ammunition to it... I'm not entirely sure about prices in the US, but here a new one would be more than 2000€ for the gun, over 1500€ for a good scope to go with it, and at least a few hundred for the other necessary things.
A price range would help... :p
The process of taking it apart (which is part of the basics about guns) depends on the gun, but most should be pretty easy once you get used to them, so that shouldn't really be a problem, you can't exactly destroy a proper gun with your bare hands...
[SIZE="1"]PS If you have any difficult questions, please ask someone else who might actually own a gun...[/SIZE]
Mosin-Nagant. Short-Magazine Lee-Enfield. Try one of those. Mosin-Nagants are some of the cheapest guns out there, and extra parts aren't hard to come by. It is about a .30 caliber, and I'm guessing some simple Soviet scopes could be found for cheap.
Well, I'm not sure how much they run. I saw some K98s at the range that were about $125 and I consider that really cheap. I could go as much as about $300 right now, but that is all my money I've been saving up for stuff like my HDTV and/or my computer upgrade, so cheaper would be nicer. I guess my absolute max is $500. Oh, and what is a good year/model Mosin-Nagant to get, or does it really matter?
Rifle is only as good as the ammo your shooting. Buying a $5000 rifle to shoot wally world ammo aint gonna get you anywhere. The first step is to A-buy a clean action. I recommend either a Weatherby Mark V or Remington 700 PSS Both will shoot .5 MOA or so out of box out to 500 yards with quality ammunition. B- Get an EXCELLENT scope. Its more important than a rifle at times. I prefer either Leopold or Swarovski Low lighters 4x32 range.
C-Load your own ammo. and while we are on ammo, your choices are going to be limited to mostly the 7mm/.30 cal range as those are the best all round performers for range accuracy and consistancy. .308 is cheaper and widely available though with the Remington and especially the Weatherby, you would be pressed not to shoot either the 7mm Rem Mag or the various Weatherby Mag loadings. I personally own a Mark V in .308 and consider it my most accurate piece out to 700 yards. im not good enough to reliably hit beyond that and my rifle isnt customised for it in any event.
Stock body. Your gonna want to get a fiberglass stock designed for such work. go to place for that will be Mcmillian, who can, for a price, custom bed your rifle to any number of fine synthetic stocks for consistant shot placement.
Beyond those minimum steps above, the rest is in individual loading or ammunition to your rifles performance, trigger setting and of course, personal skill. a word on surplus. remember WW2 rifles only needed to maintain a 3 in group at 100 yards to be considered passable after leaving the factory and that for their lifespan they have fired untld hundreds of corrosive shiat ball ammo. IF you get a decent shooter, dont think your are going to be making dime size groupings with it especially beyond 100 yards.
Im a big mosin fan and if your looking for the best in nagant action, do your DAMNEDEST to find a good condition Finnish one. Avoid anything made anywhere after 1944. thats all im going to say on that topic.
if you need any further info PM as i very infrequently check the forums currently
RE, perhaps set it so that people can PM you=p
well dont i feel like a douche-bag. could have sworn i always had the ability to receive PM's. Damn this new technology!!
You can either agree with meor be wrong.
12th November 2003
too bad they cost a million dollars well t
Can't go wrong with that, except for that being a .50, and thus something he doesn't want.
[bad joke]Oh, wait, get the 12.7mm version[/really bad kinda-joke]