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Malaki1972

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#71 9 years ago
eezstreet;5182913To answer all you folk (SeinfieldRules) who don't believe he said it, point your eyes to this Google search: Google

Funny thing about your search, No where do they have the actual speech, a video or recording of Bush saying those words. In fact only 2 people can say what was said, Bush will not comment and Rob Sherman has changed his story a few times over the years.

I will have to say that to keep believing that Bush Sr. said this would take an act of faith on your part. There just is not any credible evidence that can be found to support that he said it, or did not say it. And not denying something as stupid as this is, is not evidence of it being true.

And to answer all you folk who say "it's not hard to stand up to Christians": While they may not have templars or other means of fear to that extent, living in a place, particularly a town in which there's nine churches, approx 100 people per church, do you think one versus eight hundred ninety nine really stands a chance? Sure, one person may be easy to stand up to, but try hundreds.

Oh, and I found this funny: Religious intolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the "See Also" links, it has "Christianity" in it, but no other religions. Religious intolerance there, you think? :chuckle:

Are saying that Christianity is the only religion that is intolerant of other religions? Do you know what they do to Christians in a Muslim dominated country?

For the record I am do not subscribe to any one religion or any religion at all. I do believe the answer to how we got here and how life began on this planet, rests between the religious and the scientific, in fact a lot of science is based on faith. Just as those that believe in a god base there beliefs on a faith.




Whiteshield

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#72 9 years ago

Hmm.. since when have true Christians become oppressive?.. Oppression is not the way of Christianity because Christians are to be the good examples. However, throughout the years, many have professed to be Christians and have brought only prejudice to the Christian faith. Seriously in terms of physical prowess of a human being in hand to hand, you can take several down but A THOUSAND?...

Not all Christians are like that. Its like saying that all Atheists are the bad guys, or like all Muslims are bad guys. Or all Americans, Russians, Italians, Mexicans, Cubans or any other race in this globe of ours are evil.

We are given a choice. Of course, yes being surrounded by hundreds of Christians waiting for you to receive Christ as your Savior is a bit creepy at times when they're all staring at you and you say NO!.

However, the change is in our hearts and we can not and must not allow anyone to take that choice away. Even Christ himself said that if they won't accept The Gospel, then go on to someone who will.

Then again, we see the Crusades back then.. Done in the name of Christ as they say. Let me ask you a question mates, if I and a bunch of dudes went around killing innocent people in your name without your command or approval, would others think its your fault?... Well you would probably say something like "no I didn't tell them to do that, leave me the hell alone!", but others would most certainly throw you in the slammer or just outright shoot you on sight.

The reason why Christians as you say "annoy" you with The Gospel:

Because they are given command by Christ to go ye therefore unto all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.

So yes, you'll probably see Christians around giving out tracts because that's what they believe in. A Christian DOES NOT force you to believe in something because: 1) It's a choice 2) You'd most certainly say no, get lost (or something similar) 3) You'd probably throw the tracts away at the first sign of a garbage bin

What you should do is: 1) Be polite enough to tell them no. 2) Consider their proposal

Why?.. because whether Christian or not each of us has a form of honor. Give respect and it will be returned to you.

But of course I say this time and time again... Some of the worst people in the world are Christians. Do they smoke yeah they do. Do they do drugs, yeah they do. Do they commit infidelity, YES THEY DO. The only difference is that they go to Church.

Now they're Christians alright. Now me, I was addicted to video games I studied only when it was a day before examinations - but by His grace I prevailed. Some people admire the Christian faith but they can't believe what kind of people believe in it. Why?.. Because of the mercy offered by Christ. You rarely hear the word mercy uttered by the criminal in a trial.

I went to my church since I was a kid but I wasn't really true to the faith. I was the so-called good guy in class because I rarely (got caught) do anything wrong. The one who does pranks and the teacher doesn't know about it. The best part is because they wouldn't believe old Jack or Jill who started the fight because I put on the innocent face. It wasn't until I read my Bible when I was older that I started believing.

Evolution and other theories were introduced and I had many doubts whether there was a God back then or not. But I had this feeling inside me that this is no lie! Of course, this was explained in our creation science forum.

I have come a long way from stealing food using the hole in the wall in our canteen when I was a kid and hitting that car with a large branch and the other things I did. Now I can see the things I did wrong and finally admit that those things I did were wrong.

Then a year later I went to Bible School and you know what?.. A lot of people that go there are not the angelic type. There was the ex-convict, the ex-gangster, the ex-drug smuggler, and more. Also other people from all walks of life. The ex-Engineer and the ex-Nurse, the ex-Accountant.

I left a year and a half later, feeling myself unfit for service. For failing The Emperor of Man... Though He shows mercy, I feel myself undeserving of it.

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AND FOR THE RECORD: Christianity is intolerable of other religions because God is a jealous god. How would you feel if you somehow made something with its own intellect gave it free will and it wants to watch TV or play video games more than it wants to be seen around with you?... Or how would you feel if your baby boy or girl cries when he sees your face and likes your neighbor more?... Main thing is, respect each other in what they believe. Yes yes, God is a jealous god, but he doesn't make us or force us to believe in Him. Its pointless trying to convince someone that you can't convince.

And Malaki1972 although you don't have any religion at all, you must at least believe in something right?... Whether there be any honor or any good thing. Now I agree with you that it rests between religious and scientific facts. How would you believe in God if there are no facts at all?....




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#73 9 years ago
AND FOR THE RECORD: Christianity is intolerable of other religions because God is a jealous god. How would you feel if you somehow made something with its own intellect gave it free will and it wants to watch TV or play video games more than it wants to be seen around with you?... Or how would you feel if your baby boy or girl cries when he sees your face and likes your neighbor more?... Main thing is, respect each other in what they believe. Yes yes, God is a jealous god, but he doesn't make us or force us to believe in Him. Its pointless trying to convince someone that you can't convince.

Sure he does, it's called idolatry and considered heresy by the christian faith.

Christianity is incredibly intolerant of anyone outside of their faith. The only reason they're not forcing it on others is because these are not the feudal days where governments were controlled by the church any longer and they can't get away with it. Instead, they hound non-believers to 'save them'.

You want to find out the true history about your religion, you should look outside of a religious book. Go look up the real reason why suicide is considered a sin. If you really have an open mind about your christian religion that little fact you'll read should open the door to other questions.


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#74 9 years ago

This seems like my thread is almost pub material don't ya think?

I agree with Jeff there. Christianity is intolerant, however look more towards the east then then west. In the east your either Christan, Jewish, or Islamic anything else they treat you like 2nd class citizen or worse. If you fall under the other less major groups, then there beyond ignorant to you.


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#75 9 years ago

Malakai1972;5183269 Funny thing about your search, No where do they have the actual speech, a video2_bing.gif or recording of Bush saying those words. In fact only 2 people can say what was said, Bush will not comment and Rob Sherman has changed his story a few times over the years. I will have to say that to keep believing that Bush Sr. said this would take an act of faith on your part. There just is not any credible evidence that can be found to support that he said it, or did not say it. And not denying something as stupid as this is, is not evidence of it being true. [/quote] Allow me to direct your eyes to this .pdf file: http://www.robsherman.com/advocacy/bush/thirdfax.pdf [QUOTE=Whiteshield;5183277] So yes, you'll probably see Christians around giving out tracts because that's what they believe in. A Christian DOES NOT force you to believe in something because: 1) It's a choice 2) You'd most certainly say no, get lost (or something similar) 3) You'd probably throw the tracts away at the first sign of a garbage bin

What you should do is: 1) Be polite enough to tell them no. 2) Consider their proposal

Why?.. because whether Christian or not each of us has a form of honor. Give respect and it will be returned to you.

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And Malaki1972 although you don't have any religion at all, you must at least believe in something right?... Whether there be any honor or any good thing. Now I agree with you that it rests between religious and scientific facts. How would you believe in God if there are no facts at all?....

These two quotes almost sound as if you're trying to convert people. :uhm: While I do say, "No", politely, a lot of the times they will persist, bully, etc. What follows from "No thanks." can often go to "Why? Do you have no faith? You must repent.". I've met my fair share of people who can tolerate me, but I've also met many more who try to convert me, or bible thump me.




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#76 9 years ago
Whiteshield;5183277Hmm.. since when have true Christians become oppressive?.. Oppression is not the way of Christianity because Christians are to be the good examples. However, throughout the years, many have professed to be Christians and have brought only prejudice to the Christian faith. Seriously in terms of physical prowess of a human being in hand to hand, you can take several down but A THOUSAND?...

Fun Bible Quote Time!

Deuteronomy 29:15: but with him who stands here with us today before the lord our God, as well as with him who is not here today 16 (for you know that we dwelt in the land of Egypt and that we came through the nations which you passed by 17 and you saw there abominations and their idols which were among them-wood and stone and silver and gold) 18:so that there may not be among you man or woman or family or tribe, whose heart turns away today from the lord our God, to go serve the gods of these nations, and that they may not among you a root bearing bitterness or wormwood; 19 and so it may not happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he blesses himself in his heart saying "I shall have peace, even though I follow the dictates of my heart"-as though the drunkard could be included with the sober 20 The Lord would not spare him; for then the anger of the Lord and His jealousy would burn against the man, and every curse that is writting in his book would settle on him, and the lord would blot out his name from under the heaven.

Then it goes onto saying how filthy it will become that foreigners will remark of how disgusting and gruesome it is in Israel. This quote teaches not only to be intolerant of people of other faiths, but to kill them and threatens that if they live then your people will be slaughtered by God.

The Bible is full of stuff like that, hell in Leviticus it gives guidelines on how you should buy slaves and who to buy them from, oh and did I mention according to the Bible slavery is a-ok? Yah apparently the so called "Exodus" only applied to the Hebrews, in fact Hebrew Men have it the best, they can only be enslaved for 7 years, then they have to be let free, foreigners can be enslaved forever.




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#77 9 years ago

Inyri Forge;5183071So tell me this:

Unless he goes to their church, when he is he going to be surrounded by a horde of Christians? And how are you going to guarantee they're all oppressive Christians?

I'm not guaranteeing that they're all "oppressive Christians"--they could be individually decent people-- but groupthink can often bring out the worst traits in people, like suppressing dissent without wondering what causes the dissent.




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#78 9 years ago

EO Violation;5183089I'm sorry, I must have missed something... Is this guy claiming that he's going toe-to-toe with nearly 1,000 Christians?

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Sounds more melodramatic than a soap opera.[/QUOTE] Seems I forgot to read page 7 =p I'm not waging war against anybody. [quote=Inyri Forge;5183071] Unless he goes to their church, when he is he going to be surrounded by a horde of Christians?

To respond to this, my entire town is Christian (if not the entire town, atleast 98% of it is), and since I go to school every day, with about four hundred kids in it? I think you can figure out the rest.