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NCC1017spock

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#1 10 years ago

Well, lately I have seen the errors of my Imperial ways (and losing 2 rep points) and have come up with this, The Charter of United Earth and maybe some day when it is doen it can be used. For now here are the first to paragraphs of it, tell me what you think...

The Charter of United Earth

The Charter of United Earth is for the people of Earth and there well being, designed for freedom and greater being of Human kind. The fighting nations of Earth should be united as one, not factionalized. As a race why do we fight but for resources, land, and people, and all this fighting brings an end to all to be fought for. When the days of destruction are upon us and there is no turning back, where do we go but into the blood bath? This charter is designed to stop that and expand our well begin here, around and past the planet. With the elimination of war, hunger, sickness, and poverty can be achieved if we work together as a united race, and not countries. The Chart of United Earth is to benefit all countries and peoples on the planet of Earth, and to insure the horrible acts of the past do not repeat them selves. All the countries no matter what size will have equal power, and the larger states will have more ability to vote. Through and new system to here be known as Unitedism (united-ism) all components seen in past government structures will be blended together form a more perfect, clean, peaceful world.




Banach

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#2 10 years ago

I have to be honest with you.

Whatever you wrote makes you sound like a 13 year old day-dreaming.

The typos were irritating, you do not put questions in official documents-its a rulebook and not a suggestion, it has an overly optimistic view on the world state.

The world will NOT be clean, peaceful, and you will NOT have various nations living together under ONE government.

I understand, its just a suggestion and I don't want to bark at you but what you wrote is very 'dreamer' and will not work in real society.




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#3 10 years ago

ugh, can blame me for trying




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#4 10 years ago

Although I do agree that this is an alright thought, there have been such ideas in the past.

It's something known as Communism... All people in the nation are created equal and the government controls everything as to keep all people safe as well as the sharing of resources to better all lives.

Do you know what this resulted in? Some of the worst dictators and tyrants the world has ever seen. If people could just understand that the world will never be like this as long as certain people are able to come to power, then possibly the world could co-exist. But there are so many dumbasses and people who do not follow what is going on, this will never happen.




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#5 10 years ago

EpicLoad;4194681Although I do agree that this is an alright thought, there have been such ideas in the past.

It's something known as Communism... All people in the nation are created equal and the government controls everything as to keep all people safe as well as the sharing of resources to better all lives.

Do you know what this resulted in? Some of the worst dictators and tyrants the world has ever seen. If people could just understand that the world will never be like this as long as certain people are able to come to power, then possibly the world could co-exist. But there are so many dumbasses and people who do not follow what is going on, this will never happen.

The problem with communism, as far as I can see, is that it requires everyone within the state to believe that everyone is equal, and to believe in communism. In the past, nations declaring themselves as communist had a problem with people who did not agree with them - how can you deal with someone you think of as an equal, if they do not believe themselves equal to you?

Of course, the measures taken against this were far more than necessary, resulting in the murder of millions. I think that hypothetically, if you were to create a new nation and only allow convinced communists to live there, it might fare better than history might lead you to believe.

Going back to the topic, the problem with making all countries equal, especially regarding military force, is that they simply are not. It would be a bad idea to consider the USA and, say, Monaco equal in power.

I know which topic the thread started is referring to. There is a difference between thinking of all nations as equal in power, and thinking of the peoples of all nations as of equal worth.




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#6 10 years ago

well this is the unfinished version, its only 2 the first to paprgraphs




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#7 10 years ago

Rich19;4194708The problem with communism, as far as I can see, is that it requires everyone within the state to believe that everyone is equal, and to believe in communism. In the past, nations declaring themselves as communist had a problem with people who did not agree with them - how can you deal with someone you think of as an equal, if they do not believe themselves equal to you?

Of course, the measures taken against this were far more than necessary, resulting in the murder of millions. I think that hypothetically, if you were to create a new nation and only allow convinced communists to live there, it might fare better than history might lead you to believe.

Yes, that does make a lot of problems, especially since it goes against human nature.

Also, if you put all people who believed in communism in one place and ignored other people, then a larger war would ensue, and that would just create more problems.




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#8 10 years ago

liek I said thats far form finished...here is an update:

The Charter of United Earth

The Charter of United Earth is for the people of Earth and there well being, designed for freedom and greater being of Human kind. The fighting nations of Earth should be united as one, not factionalized. As a race why do we fight but for resources, land, and people, and all this fighting brings an end to all to be fought for. When the days of destruction are upon us and there is no turning back, where do we go but into the blood bath. This charter is designed to stop that and expand our well begin here, around and past the planet. With the elimination of war, hunger, sickness, and poverty can be achieved if we work together as a united race, and not countries. The Charter of United Earth is to benefit all countries and peoples on the planet of Earth, and to insure the horrible acts of the past do not repeat them selves in the future. All the countries no matter what size will have equal power, and the larger states will have more ability to vote. Through and new system to here be known as Unitedism (united-ism) all components seen in past government structures will be blended together form a more perfect, clean, peaceful world. The first problem to be solved is the way to elect leaders, for it is in the best interest of the people to choose there own leaders while the government would elect the members that the people have chosen. · First the people in a selected territory would vote for the people they feel is best for the job they are running for in the Planetary council. · Out of the selection of the Planetary council the Supreme council (2 members for each continent). · Then the members of the Planetary council would elect the members of the Supreme council (out of the choices that the people wanted the Planetary council to elect- see first bullet). · This process is repeated ever four years and on the fifth year all the newly elected members, or ones voted for again will take office. The power will lie in the hands of the government and there choices lie in the hands of the people. The territories will be made by already existing borders of the countries that are members of Untied Earth. Larger countries like the United States of America will be split into 3 territories, of western, central, and eastern areas and other countries will remain whole. Each territory will have the same amount of representatives in the Planetary council, while each territory (depending on size) will have more votes on any matter that needs voting on. While each all the territories in a continent will vote on who they wont to run for there continent, and then the Planetary council will elect out of the four most popular candidates for the Supreme council.




Banach

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#9 10 years ago

So there would be equal representatives from Kenya and Malta as their are of Russia, United States, and France?

That seems a little bit flawed. Represenation by population is a better way to go as it addresses the needs of the countries that have more voters.

And how do you go aobut choosing leaders when that task in itself is hard? Think of Iraq, Pakistan, nations of Africa.

They TRIED to choose a leader but it didn't work out.

For this 'United Earth' thing to work, all present problems have to be resolved. Which will not happen as poverty can't be fed, terrorism can't be stopped, disease can't be cured and people cannot be turned.




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#10 10 years ago

just let me finish it, then you will see it all works out, one way or another..... but ask your self really dig down deep inside your self, do you still think we will be fighing each other for the next 300 or 400 years?