The RIAA/MPAA: Going too far? 11 replies

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Auroraominae

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#1 10 years ago

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Don't worry about the redirect, the website doesn't allow direct links.. what do you think about this?

Not only will this technology help us figure out where movies are being pirated the most - we will also be able to track down the exact person who bought the DVD/Blueray disc that was illegally copied. This is possible because movie-resellers will be required to check ID on people buying movies, and enter this into a database with the unique watermark of the movie(s).

I'm really afraid about what's going to happen with my privacy with these kinds of things being legal.. I mean sure, i can fake my way around it, proxy etc, but i don't want to be treated like a criminal when i buy a movie..




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#2 10 years ago

it is going too far and I doubt many will adopt it, and if they do, they just encouraged more people to pirate movies to bypass such a 'feature'.

Let's not forget that every piece of technology, every piece, can be cracked and circumvented. They're living in their own little world if they believe it can't be. So, yet another win for piracy due to the idiocy of the RIAA and MPAA and treating every customer as though they're a criminal.


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#3 10 years ago

How is this too far? They can only use it legally if you actually pirate the movie. Otherwise, they can be sued. I can't see how anyone against piracy can be against this. Why does no one ever say it's too far when your ISP is allowed to hand your IP and location out to the government when you have pirated something? It's the same thing!

But as n0e said, Piracy is the same as Religious Cults. It cannot be stopped, and it usually never ends up in good results.




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#4 10 years ago
Serio;4437599How is this too far? They can only use it legally if you actually pirate the movie. Otherwise, they can be sued. I can't see how anyone against piracy can be against this.

Well we could start with the fact that the person who purchased the item isn't necessarily the one who pirated it. Move on to the fact that fake IDs have been more prevalent than candy among teenagers who want to get a quick nip of the old white lightning since the mid 90s. Briefly touch upon the massive amounts of identity thefts that go on these days. And finish up with the fact that if you can't hear it with your ears in the audio track or see it in the video track then they can just transfer it using a wizywig type device rather than the old digital 1-1 and get it anyway sans fingerprint as it were.




Sh0wdowN

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#5 10 years ago

I was more thinking that if you had the DVD playing on your TV, and your TV was hooked up to your computer, you might be able to record what's going on the TV (like you would a TV show) using a software and get a fingerprint-free version. Maybe it'd work, maybe not, but the point is there's a great deal of ways to circumvent it.

With that said, I have to add that I don't like these kinds of systems, where every action you take is linked up to your ID in a database, logged and monitored.




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#6 10 years ago

Sony said the same thing about their copy protection, and what fixed it? A sharpee mark made on the inner ring of the DVD.

Currently there may not be a method, but that doesn't mean one won't exist down the road.

I'm actually quite against giving information to anyone when I just want to buy a movie.

Also, what about movie rental places? Netflix, Blockbuster? They shouldn't have to give up this private information a customer gives on good faith it won't be shared with others.

I'm not condoning piracy, but at the same time I agree with the thoughts of many who do. MPAA and RIAA are committing worse offenses by ripping people off with high prices and idiotic copy protection methods. I think the entertainment industry would but much better off without them.


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Auroraominae

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#7 10 years ago

I don't think anyone should try to control piracy. You can't. You can't prohibit it, stop it, you can't do anything for the simple reason there is no "boss" on the web. Sure, the government can make laws on the net, but they aren't the end-all boss there (Even though they'd like to be).

People with the skills don't pay attention to them - the net is neutral and thus, no-ones (Unlike real life which is pretty much owned by the government and people with money).

The best way to "Combat" piracy is to not control it at all, thus, lower prices of media, make paid media easily available, etc. I know for sure i wouldn't pirate if the stuff was affordable. But now, i'd feel guilty about buying something legal, because i'd know greedy people like the MPAA/RIAA will get money from it. I'll never help an organization that condones or enforces internet law.

My favorite band is nightwish. I've downloaded all of their music - but i paid for it. Believe it or not, i've sent them a check with the full retail price of every song i downloaded (And a note why i sent it).




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#8 10 years ago

Interesting Scheme, I wonder how long it takes before someone cracks it. In addition I wonder if they plan to implement this to downloadable content as well

This is just further proof that Big Brother is Watching you every time you buy a movie.




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#9 10 years ago

^^ Prices might deter some, yes, but I know A LOT of people just are just lazy and downloading is easier then going to the store or legally downloading/ordering it online.

Also some people, sadly, get a kick out of doing illegal shit like downloading software, music, w/e. Like smoking is "bad" to do, or staying out late, now it's downloading illegal tunes. Bad is cool, you know?




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#10 10 years ago

This will never be implemented.

What about people who sit in movie theaters with cameras?

Don't count on it, there are privacy issues involved too..

Who will have access to my movie purchase record? Do I want any Joe Shmoe in the RIAA know that I purchased Debby Does Dallas?

Can my DVD purchase history be used against me in court and warrant obtains? IE, If I buy a lot of DVDs detailing Columbine and Sept 11th, does that redflag me as a terrorist?

How will my DVD purchase history be communicated back to the RIAA? Will the store have to transmit it digitally after every purchase? That means all the POS machines (point of sale... the registers) will have to be recoded.. or even more likely converted to a digital/touch-screen.

What if I want to sell my DVD at a yard sale? According to the First Sale Doctrin, I can sell that purchase if I acquired it legally.

This is all bullcrap. Scare tactic, I think.. though not worth much




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