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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago

Continuing a conversation from which was made in the following thread: http://forums.filefront.com/pub/362993-first-time-machine.html I would like to know what people generally think on time travel. Whether it is possible or not, and possibly the consequences behind it. Obviously this has been covered a fair bit on the other thread, but I'd like to extend upon what has been discussed there. In our present day, we've not yet reached the technical level of travelling through time. This is all assuming that it is a technological level that we have to reach, and not just stumble across some portal or something. I don't remember where, but I read a (very long) theory a while ago, about Dimensions. From what I remember, there were ten or eleven of them, two of which were specifically for time travel, one of which went forward, and the other of which went backward. In addition to that theory, there are plenty of others. You only need to watch certain films or TV shows, and they'll confuse you with their belief of time travel. Doctor Who is probably the most known one for that. Anyway, please do feel free to discuss this topic, those who have posted in the above linked thread, feel free to quote what you've said and extend on it at your choosing. :)




Liquid fire

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#2 10 years ago

I believe in certain aspects of it but with all the fiction of it out there, few people truly know what true time travel would depict. Certain aspects of anything is possible, but time travel as we know it....well, hehe.

If it is possible , it is also rationale, once dumbed down everyone has vision . Simply without knowing a specific time travel method, someone can not be truly subjective if it is possible or not. Nor can someone be truly objective (whatever) without knowing, or considering any methods of such a science their selves.

To be brutally uninformed of what is impossible , as well as possible makes you un-credible and not the greatest of opinions on the subject being ...blah blah you get it.

AS science everything is relative, if you had a degree in science or studied certain possible simple divided aspects of time travel theory you could rightfully indulge yourself further in that direction or aspire for more to learn.

To ask if time travel is possible first you must ask yourself if much simpler functions, and processes allowing time travel are at all possible. Certain functions, science that the average eye can not even possibly connect to the science of time travel. To have the proper vision you must be able to see that to begin with.

Building blocks, processes and 2+2=4 per say , lol. IF you can prove 2 then you can prove that if you had +2 you might have 4.




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#3 10 years ago

I'd rather not see it, to be honest, if it affected the outcome of things. I don't really want to get into the whole logic loop, so I might leave it at that.




GreatGrizzly

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#4 10 years ago

Its possible. My future self standing in the room watching me as I type this is proof. Future me also wants me to tell you to "cut the red wire", whatever that means. ;)




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#5 10 years ago

Who says i can't travel time? That TARDIS sitting out in my yard works just fine.




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#6 10 years ago

If you can travel faster than the speed of light and then look back where you came from with a telescope, you can effectively see back in time. But you can't go there. Likewise, if you can travel faster than the speed of light or get close enough to a large source of gravity (or get away from a large source of gravity if you want to speed it up a bit) you can alter the passage of time for yourself. That's about it really, and you can't travel faster than the speed of light anyway.

Being able to interact with the past or the future wouldn't really be a good idea, anyway. Being able to see the past would be great, certainly from a historical, archaeological and palaeontological point of view. But not being able to change it. All you need is one nutter with a time machine and the next thing we knew, everybody would have blonde hair and blue eyes...




Admiral Donutz VIP Member

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#7 10 years ago

Hey you stole my post and posted it 3 hours before me Matt! Curse you!

But indeed, as I already wrote in the pub: I think that we might be able to watch the past (travel faster then the speed of light and look back) , and it would be a great source for historians and the like. Actually altering the past would cause a lot of trouble. It would be the ultimate power, and it would be an ultimate source of coruption. And the future hasn't been decided yet so altering it would be quite a challenge besides altering what you are doing at this very moment.

Hmm I feel the sudden urge to torch the house, what was that about the red wire again?




Karst

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#8 10 years ago

Admiral Donutz;4370931Hey you stole my post and posted it 3 hours before me Matt! Curse you!

But indeed, as I already wrote in the pub: I think that we might be able to watch the past (travel faster then the speed of light and look back) , and it would be a great source for historians and the like. Actually altering the past would cause a lot of trouble. It would be the ultimate power, and it would be an ultimate source of coruption. And the future hasn't been decided yet so altering it would be quite a challenge besides altering what you are doing at this very moment.

Hmm I feel the sudden urge to torch the house, what was that about the red wire again?

It's impossible to alter history, for the simple reason that it already happened. Whatever one attempted to change, it will already have happened, so in the end nothing changes.




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#9 10 years ago
Karst;4371019It's impossible to alter history, for the simple reason that it already happened. Whatever one attempted to change, it will already have happened, so in the end nothing changes.

Indeed, that's the whole time travel paradox and all. If we changed the past it already would have been changed in the first place. But then time traveling wouldn't let you alter time at all, you would just alter what already was meant to be, but in that case you wouldn't have a free will in your actions which... and so on.

So I prefer to avoid the whole paradox and see time traveling as being able to look back in time. Or by using shortcuts to travel from A to B faster then if you traveled in a straight line from point A to B.




Liquid fire

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#10 10 years ago

Yes, but the truth is that going to your future is steps of your present. If I go to my future , then that action of going to my future is my present. When I get to my future, it is no longer my future but my present. My future self will not be in the future because he is now further down the road from my present . The future is not yet written so If I write myself into some sort of future , I will be adding myself in such said state from before. This will temp erase my past , present future actions progressing me towards the future, and will reposition my future to my current present.

The thing about altering the past is that it can only exist if you create an alternative universe . So yes it is a paradox, you can always change your future though. I worked this out a little once, I am no scientists but I can show someone it in graphs.




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